Truck cranks but no start
Truck cranks but no start
Hey all my 04. First off I'm in Alberta my girlfriend and truck in Newfoundland. Truck started fine ran two mins then died now it cranks great but won't fire. She says she can't hear fuel pum running when key is first turned on and it's throwing a crank shaft pos. Sens code. So I'm wondering if the two are related. And hope some one here knows. Air heate light come on and goes off oil level fine conditioner in fuel. Buy absolutely no startup not even a stutter
Truck was working fine all along now dead.
Thanks in advance people. Dealer and all garages closed today
Truck was working fine all along now dead.
Thanks in advance people. Dealer and all garages closed today
Ok lift pump
Not coming on. Now is it safe to assume
It's dead or can a sensor or something tell the computer to nit allow fuelto be moved? What fuses or relay should I be checking here. Thanks people
Not coming on. Now is it safe to assume
It's dead or can a sensor or something tell the computer to nit allow fuelto be moved? What fuses or relay should I be checking here. Thanks people
Sorry I did not see this sooner.
On an 04, the pump is most likely mounted on the back of the canister. If that is the case, they have a super high failure rate.
Below is a shot of the stock fuel filter canister, on the back where the silver piece is, that is the stock pump location. If it's there, you can bet it's bad.

When the pump dies, that's it. She can check for 12v at the pump, but it's probably toast. If you want a fairly easy fix, you can order an OEM replacement from Geno's, but I would spend a couple of extra bucks on a Raptor 100 for the ease of install, or an Air Dog 150 (or higher) if you're going to pay someone to do it.
What is the actual code it's throwing? What are the numbers?
HTH...
On an 04, the pump is most likely mounted on the back of the canister. If that is the case, they have a super high failure rate.
Below is a shot of the stock fuel filter canister, on the back where the silver piece is, that is the stock pump location. If it's there, you can bet it's bad.

When the pump dies, that's it. She can check for 12v at the pump, but it's probably toast. If you want a fairly easy fix, you can order an OEM replacement from Geno's, but I would spend a couple of extra bucks on a Raptor 100 for the ease of install, or an Air Dog 150 (or higher) if you're going to pay someone to do it.
What is the actual code it's throwing? What are the numbers?
HTH...
You know for sure it's in tank? Mine is an 04.5, and it had a canister mounted pump. Just asking...
P0336-CRANKSHAFT POSITION (CKP) SENSOR SIGNAL
When Monitored: With the key on.
Set Condition: The voltage detected at the Crankshaft position sensor is below a
calibrated value.
Possible causes:
CKP SENSOR
(G17) SIGNAL CIRCUIT OPEN
(K6) 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT OPEN
(K167) RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN
(G17) SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO (K167) RETURN CIRCUIT
(K6) 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT SHORTED TO (K167) RETURN CIRCUIT
(G17) SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO (K6) 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT
(G17) SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND
(K6) 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT SHORTED TO BATTERY NEGATIVE
INTERMITTENT CONDITION
ECM
Disconnect the CKP sensor harness connector.
NOTE: Check connectors - Clean/repair as necessary.
Measure the resistance between the (K6) 5-volt supply circuit and the (G17) signal
circuit of the sensor harness connector.
Is the resistance between 900 and 1100 ohms?
Yes Go To 2
No Replace the CKP sensor
Disconnect the ECM harness connectors.
Disconnect the CKP sensor harness connector.
Check connectors - Clean/repair as necessary.
Measure the resistance of the (G17) signal circuit between the ECM harness
connector and the CKP sensor harness connector.
Is the resistance less than 10 ohms?
Yes Go To 3
No Repair the open (G17) signal circuit.
Measure the resistance of the (K6) 5-volt supply circuit between the ECM harness
connector and the CKP sensor harness connector.
Is the resistance less than 10 ohms?
Yes Go To 4
No Repair the open (K6) 5-volt supply circuit.
4 Measure the resistance of the (K167) return circuit between the ECM harness
connector and the CKP sensor harness connector.
Is the resistance less than 10 ohms?
Yes Go To 5
No Repair the open (K167) return circuit.
5 Measure the resistance between the (G17) signal circuit and the (K167) return circuit
in the sensor connector.
Is the resistance greater than 100k Ohms?
Yes Go To 6
No Repair the short circuit or replace the engine harness.
6 Measure the resistance between the (K6) 5-volt supply circuit and the (K167) return
circuit in the sensor connector.
Is the resistance greater than 100k Ohms?
Yes Go To 7
No Repair the short circuit or replace the engine harness.
7 Measure the resistance between the (G17) signal circuit and ground.
Is the resistance greater than 100k Ohms?
Yes Go To 8
No Repair the short circuit or replace the engine harness.
8 Measure the resistance between the (K6) 5-volt supply circuit and ground.
Is the resistance greater than 100k Ohms?
Yes Go To 9
No Repair the short circuit or replace the engine harness.
9 Measure the resistance between the (G17) signal circuit and the (K6) 5-volt supply
circuit in the sensor connector.
Is the resistance greater than 100k Ohms?
Yes Go To 10
No Repair the short circuit or replace the engine harness.
10 Reconnect the ECM harness connectors.
Ignition on, engine not running.
With the DRBIIIt, erase DTCs.
Connect a jumper wire between the sensor supply circuit and the sensor return
circuit in the sensor harness connector.
Did DTC P0337 set?
Yes Refer to the INTERMITTENT CONDITION Symptom (Diagnostic
Procedure).
No ! Replace the ECM.
P0336-CRANKSHAFT POSITION (CKP) SENSOR SIGNAL
When Monitored: With the key on.
Set Condition: The voltage detected at the Crankshaft position sensor is below a
calibrated value.
Possible causes:
CKP SENSOR
(G17) SIGNAL CIRCUIT OPEN
(K6) 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT OPEN
(K167) RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN
(G17) SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO (K167) RETURN CIRCUIT
(K6) 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT SHORTED TO (K167) RETURN CIRCUIT
(G17) SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO (K6) 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT
(G17) SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND
(K6) 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT SHORTED TO BATTERY NEGATIVE
INTERMITTENT CONDITION
ECM
Disconnect the CKP sensor harness connector.
NOTE: Check connectors - Clean/repair as necessary.
Measure the resistance between the (K6) 5-volt supply circuit and the (G17) signal
circuit of the sensor harness connector.
Is the resistance between 900 and 1100 ohms?
Yes Go To 2
No Replace the CKP sensor
Disconnect the ECM harness connectors.
Disconnect the CKP sensor harness connector.
Check connectors - Clean/repair as necessary.
Measure the resistance of the (G17) signal circuit between the ECM harness
connector and the CKP sensor harness connector.
Is the resistance less than 10 ohms?
Yes Go To 3
No Repair the open (G17) signal circuit.
Measure the resistance of the (K6) 5-volt supply circuit between the ECM harness
connector and the CKP sensor harness connector.
Is the resistance less than 10 ohms?
Yes Go To 4
No Repair the open (K6) 5-volt supply circuit.
4 Measure the resistance of the (K167) return circuit between the ECM harness
connector and the CKP sensor harness connector.
Is the resistance less than 10 ohms?
Yes Go To 5
No Repair the open (K167) return circuit.
5 Measure the resistance between the (G17) signal circuit and the (K167) return circuit
in the sensor connector.
Is the resistance greater than 100k Ohms?
Yes Go To 6
No Repair the short circuit or replace the engine harness.
6 Measure the resistance between the (K6) 5-volt supply circuit and the (K167) return
circuit in the sensor connector.
Is the resistance greater than 100k Ohms?
Yes Go To 7
No Repair the short circuit or replace the engine harness.
7 Measure the resistance between the (G17) signal circuit and ground.
Is the resistance greater than 100k Ohms?
Yes Go To 8
No Repair the short circuit or replace the engine harness.
8 Measure the resistance between the (K6) 5-volt supply circuit and ground.
Is the resistance greater than 100k Ohms?
Yes Go To 9
No Repair the short circuit or replace the engine harness.
9 Measure the resistance between the (G17) signal circuit and the (K6) 5-volt supply
circuit in the sensor connector.
Is the resistance greater than 100k Ohms?
Yes Go To 10
No Repair the short circuit or replace the engine harness.
10 Reconnect the ECM harness connectors.
Ignition on, engine not running.
With the DRBIIIt, erase DTCs.
Connect a jumper wire between the sensor supply circuit and the sensor return
circuit in the sensor harness connector.
Did DTC P0337 set?
Yes Refer to the INTERMITTENT CONDITION Symptom (Diagnostic
Procedure).
No ! Replace the ECM.
Yes I'm pretty certain it in tank. Not 100% but it sure sounds like it in the tank. When it worked. I'm basically wanting to know arethe two things related. No pump and the code ? What are the symptoms of a bad sensor? Has anyone heard of this. Also had a new ignition switch and PCM put in this rig in the past year. It's starting to annoy me with it's problems lol but I love the truck. Thanks
I would not think so, unless they are related because of a different problem, such as bad batteries, bad connections/grounds, bad ECM.
Sucks that you are not at your truck. It makes it a lot harder to trouble shoot.
Sucks that you are not at your truck. It makes it a lot harder to trouble shoot.
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