I have a 06 Quad Cab 4x4 with tire issues. Original stock Michelin LTX A/S 265/70/17 load range E tires started to loose chunks of rubber from the tread blocks at 10,000 miles and were replaced with the same tire under warrantee by Michelin. Drove the next set of LTX A/S and only got 24,000 miles out of them before the tread was shot and needed to be replaced again.

I do tow a 12,000lb 5th wheel, but not until I had 30,000 miles on the truck.

Truck has been aligned several times just to be sure that was not the problem. It wasn't.

I again contacted Michelin regarding the tire issues I was having. Long story short, Michelin agreed to a 65% replacement. They told me that I could replace them with any Michelin or BFG tire. They did however suggest that I go to the new LTX A/T2 265/70/17 load range E.

That's what we did and I really wanted to like the LTX A/T2. These tires are very smooth and quiet and wonderful around town. The problem is at highway speeds they are very prone to excessive tread squirm. Go into a corner and these things feel like you are riding on an unstable beach ball. Towing my 5th wheel made this even worse. Almost to the point of being dangerous. Going straight down the highway, no problem, just don't turn!

I am now again looking for a different tire. This will by my 4th set of tires on this truck and I still don't have 36,000 miles on it. This is getting old really fast.

Having had some positive experience with Toyo tires in the past on a different truck, I am inclined to give to Toyo Open Country A/T a try. I can get this tire in a slightly larger size 285/70/17 load range E. I have however heard of some folks having treadwear issues with this tire. Any input would be appreciated by anyone running this tire and how they work on these high torque trucks we have.

Bottom line is that I just want a tire that will give good treadwear and have good towing stability.

Sorry for the long post. Just getting a bit frustrated here.

 

The only experience I've had with the open country A/T's is that my dad had them on his 1/2 ton hemi and he wasn't all that impressed with them, they were just ok to him. They are pricey as well. I'm gonna go with 265/70 Toyo M55's on my dually I think instead of the A/T's, they are a little cheaper and I hear nothing but good about them related to regular wear and tear. They aren't the hottest looking tire but they will get the job done for me. They unfortunately don't come in a size bigger than 265 for the 17" rims. Other guys like the Nitto Terra Grapplers and I may have a closer look at them as well. I subscribe to the Consumer Reports online and they rank them the best A/T tire out there as of right now ahead of everything else by a fair amount.

 

I'm surprised to hear that about the Michelin's. I have been pulling a 5,000 pound trailer almost every day since the truck was new and also running the stock Michelin tires with no problems. They are wearing like iron, 72K and rotated only once. The rears are little more worn then the fronts but still have a few miles in them. I have a set of Toyo 285/75/70 E on H2 Rims in the garage waiting patiently, just trying to get the most out of the stock tires. I forgot to mention that I always run them at 80 psi regardless of the load.

Mike

 

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Hey busdrvr...

I've never had good luck with stock tires...

These Nitto's come with a pro-rated warranty of 45,000 miles.

If you get 45K out of some tires on these trucks when you are towing/hauling...if you use your truck like a truck.

You are doin' good.

 

I agree, the stockers wore like iron for me, I just hated the crappy traction on ice.

 

The Toyos are basically the clone to the Nitto Terra Grapplers. Both are owned by Toyo and have a pretty similar tread pattern.

I've ran the Toyos on a couple different trucks,nothing more than a 1/2 ton though. On lighter trucks I expect 50k at the minimum.

Based on my experience with a heavy truck and the Nittos,I'd probably skip the Toyos.

My 285/70/17 Nittos were shot at less than 20K miles.Started with 6k mile rotations and stepped up to 3k trying to stretch some more life out of them. They had excellent traction all around,but seemed really soft. They were very stable towing my 11,000lb fifth wheel.

They wore very even,just very fast. I don't think there was 1/32" difference in tread depth on any of the tires when I pulled them.

 

You'll love the M55s. Easily the best tire I've ever ran on a HD truck.

If they came in a 285/70/17 they'd be on my truck right now.

 

Thanks for the replies and ideas. I just want a stable tire I don't have to replace every 24,000 miles. At around $1000 a pop, it get's expensive pretty quick.

 

I have over 30K on my BFG A/T's, 285/70/17 LR "D". I figure I still have another 10K on them. They get good traction both on and off road and handle loads fine. The heaviest I've been loaded with them is 12K, but no problems...

 

Tires seem pretty weird. When my dad got rid of his 05 with 63k miles the stockers still had a bit of tread. His 07 only has 27k and the stockers are almost at the same tread his 05 was at over double the mileage. His towing hasen't change tows 13k almost all the time. Never had any issues towing with them, they were just the stock michelins. I've never put enough miles on a set of tires to see how they wear

 

The stock Michelin LTX are wearing like iron for me as well, they look brand new. Well aside from all the sidewall cracks that are starting to appear. I'm starting to develope the same problem I've read about here on DTR about the stock Michelins.

 

I have an 04 Dodge 3/4T 4x4 and the factory tires were junk. I replaced them with Bridgestone Revo's and they are the best tires I have ever had on wet pavement. They now have about 45k on them and they have about another 10k left. I pull a 11k trailer and boat and they do very well. The road noise is not bad. I will puchase them again. They are 265x70x17 "E"'s.
Jay

 

Hey busdrvr
I tow heavy fulltime....stock Michelins have held up very well until I cut a side wall couple weeks ago at 32,000 miles only thing I didn't like about them was getting stuck in wet grass (twice) with the 5th wheel hooked up. I replaced them with Michelin LTX A/T2 and did feel the tire squirm until I went to 80# all around (was running 65#/F). Good luck.....'new' shoes are too expensive to not like them.