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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Question about brake pads

While my truck had the upgraded steering components installed, the mechanic said I had 20-25% left on my brakes. Then, after I left, I got to thinking. 20-25% of what? How thick are the pads when their new? Do they have rivets, or are they bonded?

I also was wondering if anyone knows the difference from the regular and the Valueline pads they have in stock, other than the parts manager said the Valueline pads have a lifetime warrantee on them. He also told me most of the Valulines can come with rotors as a kit, which is cheaper than selling them separately. But, for my truck, the kit wasn't offered. Anyone have any experience or knowledge about this?
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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The value line don't have any anti-squeal material on the back and do not come with new anti rattle clips. I'm not sure if the compound is different, but if they have a lifetime warranty.....something has to wear, if not the pads, then the rotors will wear.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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What do you mean, don't all pads wear?
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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"While my truck had the upgraded steering components installed, the mechanic said I had 20-25% left on my brakes. Then, after I left, I got to thinking. 20-25% of what? How thick are the pads when their new? Do they have rivets, or are they bonded? "


from my experience the oem pads are riveted, and new pads are about 3/8s of an inch... mostly they are bonded
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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the ceramic pads will eat away at your rotor before the pads wear out. also, let it be known that our rotors cannot be turned. i tried to get mine turned last month and according to their computer, they are not allowed to be turned by law. The OEM pads are pretty good and mine lasted 4 years and would of lasted longer but i replaced them because i started getting a really bad squeak. since i couldnt turn my rotor i scuffed it up with a 80grit sanding wheel.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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Go for the value-line pads there sweet,its been awhile since i sold them but i belive there ceramic pads now,there first class pads, not cheapos.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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I put the Raybestos top of the line on and have been happy cost 56.00 at rock auto.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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Generally, lifetime pads are of a material that doesn't wear well. This either results in decreased stopping abilities, or increased wear on your rotors. Pick your poison, I guess?
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by johnh
from my experience the oem pads are riveted, and new pads are about 3/8s of an inch... mostly they are bonded
So, are they riveted? Or, are they bonded?

Maybe they have a few rivets, and the rest is bonded?

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also, let it be known that our rotors cannot be turned. i tried to get mine turned last month and according to their computer, they are not allowed to be turned by law.
I've never heard of that. It's always been the amount to be turned down versus the minimum thickness specified by the manufacturer. Who is they?

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Go for the value-line pads there sweet,its been awhile since i sold them but i belive there ceramic pads now,there first class pads, not cheapos.
I'm not sure which is better- wish I could find an actual comparison article by a truck magazine. There's way too many opinions out there to distinguish fact from fiction. I bought a set of OEM shoes for my Jeep once, and they seemed like a material without metallic particles. They braked well, and wore well. Then again, the current set I have are from Napa- not sure I can tell the difference.

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I put the Raybestos top of the line on and have been happy cost 56.00 at rock auto.
I just started using them for my Jeep, buying filters in bulk. I looked at Wagner, Bendix, and Raybestos. Again, sometimes I wish I could find a magazine article that did a comparison.

Originally Posted by xtoyz17
Generally, lifetime pads are of a material that doesn't wear well. This either results in decreased stopping abilities, or increased wear on your rotors. Pick your poison, I guess?
I'm not necessarily looking for a lifetime warranty. One time, I put Autozone's Duralast pads on the front of my Jeep. When I got done, it wouldn't stop. Really, no kidding. So, back they went. I'm looking for a good quality pad.

I appreciate all the help guys. It's just hard to pick the right pads.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Think I'll just go with what's been on it from day one.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sevir
the ceramic pads will eat away at your rotor before the pads wear out. also, let it be known that our rotors cannot be turned. i tried to get mine turned last month and according to their computer, they are not allowed to be turned by law. The OEM pads are pretty good and mine lasted 4 years and would of lasted longer but i replaced them because i started getting a really bad squeak. since i couldnt turn my rotor i scuffed it up with a 80grit sanding wheel.
I just had mine turned with no trouble, I had the long lasting pads on and they wore my rotors down real fast and squealed something terrible. This time went with OEM pads, they seem to be holding well with no excessive dust.
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