its not that I am trying to start a fight which this one is very close to sounding like one... but You said it yourself the 6.uh0's are having a problem with the head gaskets.... Mine had been leaking since the day I drove it home from the dealership.. and I do not lie!!!!! It was back to the dealership the next day because I didn't believe that a $50,000 brand new truck should leave a 3 foot puddle of coolant under my truck with 32 miles on it. I have a stack of invoices from my truck over the 65k I put on it that is about an inch thick "compressed" This all in less than a year.. I actually had a standing appointment every week since new. I only told you of the head gasket problems because that is all that pertained to the point I was trying to get across. I had an axle shaft snap at 600 miles, numerous driveability (surging/stalling) issues and to boot every time I went in it was "oh yea it is still leaking coolant" EVERY TIME. I had the cap replaced 5 times the whole tank replaced 2 times and numerous other times they just topped it off and said it was loose. I finally had a chat with the service manager about the consistancy of my problems and he said there was nothing he could do because ford didn't know what was wrong at the time. I eventually got a hold of a ford engineer with the sevice manager on the phone and was told specifically that I should not worry about it because they were working on a fix for it. He said that the newer style coolant expanded more than expected and were therefore redesigning a larger expansion resivour to keep it in. And I quote again I was told to "not worry about it" "And to just let it go". It was after all of this that the programmer was installed and just made matters worse. All in all I think that I ran the box for about 1000 miles total. Most of the time it sat unplugged or in total stock mode and used for gauge purposes only. I do agree with superduty that I should not expect ford to pay for something that "I" did. But this problem was happening long before I installed the box and I have proof!!! Yes I do also agree that, hindsight 20/20, I should not have installed the box since I was having all of the problems but That was the decision I made. Most of that decision was weighed on trying to get more than 11 mpg. Because of all of the problems I had, and since the box did nothing for mileage, I did contact the manufacturer of the box and told them what was going on and that I had sold the box to help pay for some of the downtime that I was incurring during the process. They were quite helpfull trying to get me information and also a brand new one for my dodge (for free) that I also sold to help pay for the $6200 bill.
All in all I would like to clarify my intentions with this post.. I did not try to start a fight by saying I was having problems and that he should go after dc or anything. I was simply trying to show that if you go up against the dealer you probably won't win!!!! That is why I said "I am STILL fighting with ford over my issue". Not that I faught and won... because the the fight isn't nearly over and I am a long way from "winning" if that is possible. ok I'm done and I hope you aren't P.O.ed at me but I am just trying to help!

 

Superduty In your signature it says that you have a 99 Ford so what are you talking about when you say Dodge is getting rid of the 7/70 for us. Unless you sig is not updated it is not affecting you one bit? I recently have purcahsed two 3rd gens and blk dually if you had a chip on your truck or didn't have a chip whatever you payed for your truck as well I payed for mine. If it where me I would take my truck in to see if they would warranty it even with the chip. If the bottom end failed I highly doubt it was because of a chip. Not once have I heard on this forum "Put a chip on my truck now looking for whole new motor" If that where the case I think there would be alot less people with chips on thier trucks.

 

'99 Ford Superduty CC with 05 Cummins 325/600, BHAF, Donalson M090544 and ZF6 transmission.


I think hes got a CTD in his Ford

 

"Superduty In your signature it says that you have a 99 Ford so what are you talking about when you say Dodge is getting rid of the 7/70 for us. Unless you sig is not updated it is not affecting you one bit?"

I didn't say "us". And you are right, I don't drive a Dodge. Here is what I did say:

"I can't figure out why they would be killing the 7 year warranty on these trucks."

Furthermore, it doesn't matter what brand I am driving because the mods and the warranty claims because of the mods are happening on every brand and all of us that buy trucks are paying for it. Lets say that the Cummins can in fact withstand making 900 ftlbs without issues. Can the 48RE take it ? Probably not. When was the last time you heard someone say "Gee, I modded my truck and now the transmission failed. Its still on warranty, but I guess I should just fix it myself." Ya right !

 

If the transmission fails that is a different story, That in fact would have to be a chip. But now come on the lower end failing because of a chip? Kinda seems fishy doesn't it? I am saying that the chip is not the reason for his motor to fail I would say that it is something from factory that they did not catch. In which I beleive it still should be covered under warranty.

 

I want to some pictures of the piston/rod assembly , was it bearing failure , pistion meltdown , or did a rod snap in half....either way , it should have been towed in when the noise started , not the old "drive till she blows , it's under warranty" attitude . Without the hole in the side of the block , it might have been repairable.

 

still waiting on the dealer to do a tear down to find out the real cause then i will post some pixs

 

D/C didn't cover mine when it was still under warranty with 48K miles. Cost $9500 to install a new short block. But mine sheared the flywheel bolts off in the crank

 

Posted by Blk DuallyYa know, I've read this thread over and over and have wanted to Speak My Mind, so to say.

But I'm still new around here so I'll just tell a little story........................

I've been a "Contract Driver" now going on 7 years. Don't knack it!! I used to own a very successful Paint & Body Shop and sold it for a nice little nest egg in '97. Very comfortable doing what I'm doing. Only answer to myself as long as I do what the delivery contract calls for. Plus, the solidarity(driving by yourself all day) is far more mind relaxing than having to deal with a dozen or more employees and 3-5 dozen customers at anytime!! And....The pay aint that bad either!!

ANYWAYS..........................

One time I was doing local deliveries for this Radiator and Muffler shop here in the Metroplex. They installed custom dual exhaust systems. We had this guy come in one time and had a set of duals installed on his V8 Dakota. (Not the Hemi, the 318). About a week later he came in all gripey saying that his "Gas Mileage" had dropped down to nothing since we put these custom exhaust pipes on his truck. At that time, the mufflers they were selling had a "No Questions Asked" replacement guarentee. That meant that no matter what, the manufacturer would cover the cost of replacing any custom exhaust systems if the customer requested it, at no charge to the customer.

Well, that muffler shop set him up with another set. Pipes - Turbo/Glass Pack Mufflers/Etc..........

A couple of weeks later, here he comes back. Griping griping griping. Truck got LOUDER, Sounded BETTER, but his gas mileage again got WORSE! Said he was getting XXX number of miles per gallon before the first set was put on, and is now getting MINUS XXX MPGs with this set.

Blah blah blah.....................................

What that customer didn't know was that Darryl the Muffler Manager, and I, both lived right there in the same neighborhood with this customer. We knew his truck. Nice looking, nice rims, it Stuck Out, if you know what I mean. When he had that first set of pipes put on, the guy turned into a Speeding Idiot. He was hauling butt all over the place with those glass packs a-popppppppin' as loud as he could get them. Even louder with the second set. He had that "LOOK AT MY TRUCK NOW" attitude everywhere he went.

When he came back to the shop the second time complaining about the gas he was using and blaming the exhaust system, which was supposed to help his MPGs, Darryl let him have it.

It was not an "Equipment" problem, it was a "Driver" problem. We told him that his driving habits changed. His new pipes on his truck changed his driving manners. We refused him a 3rd set of mufflers and I think he got the message because he did slow down, got to driving normal again, and he never stopped back by the shop. At least not while I was still there.

I don't know a whole lot about this "Stackin", "Boxes", and stuff like that, but I am begining to understand it a little. I believe "Superduty" has nailed Blk to the wall when it comes to what went wrong with the truck.

Sorry, but as of right now I have no sympathy. My opinion can change if more info comes about. I do have a problem with driving a 12,000 lb truck in the manner that Blk said above. Not only is it Dangerous, it is also stupid.

OK, that's my opinion. I'll hush up now....................................

 

Well said Brisco!!!! I agree!

 

Ditto!

 

Blk Dually , my suggestion to you would be to get in touch with your Cummins Distributorship and have the DSFE take a look at your engine once it is apart , make sure they have that same injector on that cylinder there also. I believe if you play you pay also , but everyone is innocent til proven guilty. It does not take much for a stuck needle on the common rail injector to destroy that cylinder. its not common but it happens. I have heard that Dodge may be dropping the lenght and mileage on warrantee also , and have also heard from Cummins engineers that in 07, if DC does in fact lower it that Cummins will be covering all warrantee on the engine. to me that is good news. So DC can do whatever they want with the rest of the truck , but the engine belongs to Cummins and they are obligated to honor the contract or Cummins will step in. IMHO

 

I never thought I would say it but man I'm glad my warranty is up! You guys are hard on a feller!

 

I have read this thread several times... I agree with some info and not with others. It does sound like the truck in question was ran. But I say we cut him some slack until the final outcome is known.
I agree you play, you pay. Good luck BLK Dually