3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007 5.9 liter Engine and drivetrain discussion only. PLEASE, NO HIGH PERFORMANCE DISCUSSION!

leaky high pressure injector line 2500 cummins diesel engine; cause, loose clamps

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-06-2007, 09:26 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
harleydodge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Exclamation leaky high pressure injector line 2500 cummins diesel engine; cause, loose clamps

I am trying to find any info on why clamps for high pressure injector lines may come loose after engine only has 25,000 miles on it. I found this after getting into an accident after driving for one hour on the highway at 70 mph with cruise control on. I have a 2005 dodge truck 2500 diesel cummins engine. Getting back to the accident. The road was a bit wet from rains earlier that day....I noticed black smoke coming from rear end and then started losing traction of the road when I put on the brake slightly to pullover into the left lane. I then swerved left and then right and spun into a ditch........I got out of the car and smelled and saw diesel fuel coming from my engine. The next day I bumbed the truck over and found one of mny high pressure injector line leaking with a nice v shape spray. The spray looked like it was coming from a crack close to the fitting into the manifold. Further investigation revealed the clamp that holds the injector line in place was loose. My question is how often is these clamps checked for tightness? Has anyone ever seen this problem with loose clamps resulting in cracked injector lines? Dymler Chrysler is adament that there was no mechanical defect that caused my accident. Yet I should get the injector line and clamp replaced via the warranty. My whole point here is this is a safety concern with me. Two minutes earlier or later I may not be here typing this...........I am open for any comments or recommendations.
Old 05-07-2007, 02:00 AM
  #2  
Registered User
 
PourinDiesel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Southern, Indiana
Posts: 5,352
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have lost 3 gallons of coolant on the road without getting into an accident. How did a fine mist of diesel cause you to wreck???
Old 05-07-2007, 02:07 AM
  #3  
Registered User
 
53 willys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Utah
Posts: 6,259
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
sounds like you hydroplaned to me????? and when you crashed it broke the line???
Old 05-07-2007, 05:46 AM
  #4  
Registered User
 
AlCorr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Raynham,MA
Posts: 865
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 53 ******
sounds like you hydroplaned to me????? and when you crashed it broke the line???
I would agree.
Old 05-07-2007, 07:25 AM
  #5  
Registered User
 
MikeyB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Tomball, Texas
Posts: 7,543
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
First of all, never ever use the cruise control during inclement weather (including wet roads). Way to many accidents with this combination.

I haven't heard any reports of mounting bracket issues. Ever had your truck in for injector issues?

MikeyB
Old 05-07-2007, 07:32 AM
  #6  
Registered User
 
79warlock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fruitport, MI
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I don't know how the truck was running with a high pressure fuel leak. In class, we installed a injector connector tube with a nick that you could barely feel with your finger nail and the truck wouldn't even make half the pressure needed to start.
Old 05-07-2007, 10:19 AM
  #7  
Registered User
 
03 ant a hemi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Alberta
Posts: 958
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
These trucks run all the time with leaks on them. There is a memo about ensuring that the fuel transfer tubes are not nicked. Thsi could result in a low power situation.
Ensureing that the fuel lines connections are tight and not over torqued, may be leaking fuel. Be carefull as HP fuel may be present.
Old 05-07-2007, 05:03 PM
  #8  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
harleydodge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
To all, I will begin to say that I doubt that the fuel line broke form the crash. The only damage I received during the wreck was my left rear tire rim. Oh and the plastic piece on the bumper. The engine is on motor mounts and I would expect other damage to happen before an injector line cracked as well as the clamp that holds it in place came loose. All the other injector lines are okay and the clamps are tight. At idle the engine is putting out a spray, at 70 mph what kind of spray is it putting out? How many gallons of fuel? As far as the road it was barely wet. No one was spraying any water whatsoever. The other thing of curiosity, where did the black smoke come from in the rear of my rteuck prior to the accident? I mean the truck had good traction on the road when the black smoke was sighted by me. That is when I started to get a little uneasy, because at first I thought it was water spray, but no ther cars or trucks were spewing up water. Then I realized it was black smoke from something. Within minutes after sighting the black smoek I started losing traction of the road. If I had a diagram of the truck I could better pinpoint the injector line that was leaking. I think I will look on Google to see if I can gewt a pick of my engine. No work on the fuel lines has been done since I bought the car 10K miles ago. Bought it used at the dealership.
Old 05-07-2007, 05:35 PM
  #9  
Registered User
 
huwenfut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kalapana Hawaii
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A few years ago I was driving along a 2 lane road here and almost spun out. My rear end came around. I wasn't speeding and the road was slightly wet. This happened to me a couple more times even after I had slowed down. A couple more miles up the road (I was going uphill) I came across a car in the ditch on the shoulder. I stopped and all though the guy was unhurt he claimed that he was just driving along and sullenly his car spun out around the corner. Later we found out that a truck was leaking diesel as he drove up the road and was responsible for numerous accidents on this road including a police officer investigating the accidents. I can only assume that damp road+diesel=very slippery road. So it could have been the feul leaking out onto your tires and maybe it wasn't your fault.
Old 05-08-2007, 08:16 PM
  #10  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
harleydodge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
a chrysler technician found the no. 4 injector line cracked. The clamp was also loose. It was determined that the accident did not cause the injector line to crack. it must have cracked due to vibration of engine. The clamp was supposed to hold it tight. Is the clamp supposed to have any type of lock tight on it?
Old 05-08-2007, 10:45 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
wreedCTD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: cypress/houston, tx
Posts: 1,945
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
im confused how did you wreck?
Old 05-09-2007, 07:49 PM
  #12  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
harleydodge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I was driving on the highway at 70 mph and noticed black smoke in my rearview mirror coming from the back end of my truck. No more than a minute or so did I feel like I was not getting good traction on the highway. The highway was just a tad bit wet from previous rains a few hours earlier. Feeling uncomfortable I started to slow down to pull off the side of the road to see waht was wrong. As I was getting ready to get in the right hand lane I started swerving to the left and then I tried correcting to the the right but had no traction on the road. I did a 360 or two and landed into a ditch. After getting out I noticed fuel fumes coming from the engine. I am convinced for whatever reason that fuel ran underneath my carriage and interfered with the traction of the road. The next day I found the no. 4 injector line had a nice spray of fuel from a crack in the line. Further investigation revealed a clamp that is designed for the line not to vibrate was loose. So a natural conclusion is the clamp worked its way loose and then the injector line finally cracked after hours of vibration. So I am wondering how the clamp came loose. Could it have been a factory failure or what........Some would say that the accident caused the line to crack and I would challenge them and ask why was the clamp loose. The engine is on motor mounts and doubt very much the accident caused the line to crack. The only damage to truck was the left rear tire rim. This was damaged because of landing on a concrete drainage ditch......No other damage to truck other than the air damper that was ripped because of landing in a ditch. There is no way the injector line would have cracked from this accident. So I hope this explains the accident..........
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RussianVolk
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
3
06-29-2010 01:13 AM
Strong05
24 Valve Engine and Drivetrain
7
07-01-2009 01:03 AM
hotmopr
12 Valve Engine and Drivetrain
12
06-29-2006 10:22 PM
HorseHauler
3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007
14
09-28-2004 11:37 AM
driver
3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007
3
12-06-2002 09:35 PM



Quick Reply: leaky high pressure injector line 2500 cummins diesel engine; cause, loose clamps



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:24 PM.