The one guy, thinks warrentys are not worth the paper they are written on. (has more money then knows what to do with).
When one thing fails he buys another.
When his FASS pump failed he threw it in the garbage bin, he then bought another OEM one. FASS lasted him about 40,000km the oem one lasted him 100,000km.
When his stock tranny started to slip about 80,000km pulling his work trailer he bought a new one. The Goerend which he got about 80,000km out of also. Now that one hasnt worked out for him same thing slipping, so now he is buying a new truck. His tralier weighs in around 15,000lbs loaded and his truck weighs around 10,500lbs
The old truck will sit in the back forty till he figures out if he is going to use it or not. No it is not for sale I already offered him for it.
For him to have a truck down for any matter of time costs money. So it is cheaper and easier to buy a now part then deal with warrenty.

Funny how people rely on warrenty, if the part was good to begin with then it wouldnt need warrenty, for me I perfer to have a part installed that has crappy warrenty that I never have to use then one that has good warrenty that I have to use. To each their own.

I don't really think any of the trannys are crap. They all work fine for what they are built for. Trying to make a point that not everypart is the best and everybody knows somebody who has had problems with all the manufactures.


For the original post run your tranny, if it starts to have problems take it into the shop and have it looked at, till then don't worry about it.

 

Hmmm, never heard of them don't know anybody that has one yet you wanna talk smack about those that have a little more knowledge? Yeah.....well..........

Jasper is a mass supplier. They buy parts and complete units, tear them down and run them thru a cleaner, and toss the worn out pieces. The units get built to OE specs with mass supplied soft parts. They don't even seem to try to address the OE short comings or tighten the specs.

I would not think twice of trusting Goerends CHEAPEST builds before I would trust a Jasper. Dave will fix something that is HIS fault. Just try to get a warranty out of Jasper when it is obvious its their fault. Better off getting a dealer reman.

 

Same with their engines. I have experience with a long block Toyota 22RE purchased through a Kragan Auto parts (Like a Checker) and that engine broke a wrist pin with less then 20K on the swap.

So replacing the pin with new would have saved me $1800 bucks.


So to the OP, the trans is in there so run it.

 

guess ill keep it under the scope. still has 80k+ on the warranty. we shall see.

 

So no 6, you think you know some stuff about Jasper huh? Go to their website and look at the hundreds of updates that they do the products that they build. As for the warranty, as long as you don't break it they stand behind it. Any warranty that has been denied by Jasper has been backed with the failed parts for you to inspect yourself. They remanufacture products, just like they advertise. Would you throw away your rims when you get new tires? They don't advertise as brand new products. I dont think hemi was smack talking at all, only playing devil's advocate. And as far as people with knowledge, let me know if you have any questions. Darryl, I don't know where you are buying stuff from, but if you qualify Jasper's pricing as cheap, then you are getting screwed by your supplier.

 

not here to argue just to throw in my $.02....... had a 82 chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 with a built 305. the tranny was going to crap, TH350, we rebuilt it with all jasper parts.... everything but the case itself and a couple shafts was replaced with jasper parts. we then continued to beat the crap out of the truck and the tranny had absolutley no problems.

jasper sells reman trannys.... not high performance trannys..... comparing ATS/Gorend/BD to Jasper is like comparing them to a stock tranny and saying how the stock one is crap. Jasper isnt built to handle 1000hp. others are.

 

Couldn't agree with cmac more. Jasper fills a need in the marketplace. Had a Chevy Astro van, put in a Jasper motor and drove it another 150K miles before I sold it. Mostly highway miles but ran out of miles before I even thought about their warranty, and never needed it even then.

As above if you want an moderately priced stock units I would think they can't turn out too much junk with their warranty as long as it is. It's just stock parts and that's what they warranty. If you want performance then go with the Big Boys and pay that price. I would think that he should get many enjoyable miles out of his truck as long as he keeps it mostly stock, if not then that's the chance he is taking just like all of us that mod do with our own trucks.

JMHO

 

I also think warranties aren't worth anything. I am in the warranty business, although on larger items than transmissions.

The real problem with mass production is lack of attention to detail and cost-saving measures. A big outfit like Jasper may go with a stock 10 cent clip instead of a high performance 30 cent clip. Nothing chaps my butt as much as cutting the shortest of corners.

They also employ low paid workers who are there to get a paycheck. I can't say for sure, but I'm willing to bet that the majority of them are much more concerned about keeping their job than building a great transmission. Quality definitely suffers when production is king.

A place like Jasper isn't hurt if they have a 5% failure rate. They don't care, it's part of doing business. They'll deny the claims, and take care of the ones that really put up a fight. 95% of their clients will recommend them to others, 2% will say they had a hassle but got it taken care of, and 3% will get the shaft.

A transmission failure is not a big deal to Jasper, but what would it mean to you on a cold night in the middle of nowhere with your entire family in the truck heading to Christmas dinner?

 

Lost, I recommend that you take a tour of the Jasper plant like I have. Then you can comment on the integrity of its employees. The warranty offered by any company is marketing anyway. It gives the average joe a warm and fuzzy feeling that his product must be good because it has a warranty. If there were two items priced the same and only one had a warranty, which would you buy? Of course!! You buy the one with the warranty "just in case". Any thing mechanical can break at any given time, thats just the brutal reality. Do you think that the people at Ford, GM, and Chrystler do anything different? Assembly line, low priced parts, the only difference is that the union keeps their jobs safe. Wooopeeee!! The big 3 increased their warranty to compete with Toyota, Kia, etc.... Do you really think that they inreased the quality of the product and that is why???? If everything was built with the most expensive parts money can buy none of us would be able to afford any of it.

 

I agree Ptech, but that doesn't change the fact that the employees building transmissions at Jasper are probably more concerned about keeping their job than making an outstanding transmission. Big companies know that using a cheaper part will result in more failures, and they factor that in. Just try to sell Jasper an upgrade once! Even a 10 cent part will be scrutinized.

Jasper will accept FAR MORE failed transmissions than Dave Goerend ever would. Dodge will also accept more failures than a good indy will.

How many failed transmissions do you want to deal with?

So it all boils down to money. You get what you pay for. If you're comfortable having a company build your transmission that is more concerned with profits and sales then go for it. If you want the guy building your transmission to be more worried about his quota than concentrating on verifying specifications on a clutch pack, go for it.

With Jasper it's just another transmission out of thousands, just like Dodge.

If you don't believe me, just try to sell them a part that costs $1 more and will extend the life of a transmission by 20,000 miles PAST their warranty.

 

Old boss used to swear by Jasper engines and trannys...had three trucks that we ran the snot out of two of the trucks had issues with trannys to the point it was up an runnin one week down the next. But thats my experience with Jasper...I do know after I left the company boss replaced the two trucks with the jasper trans...they got 04.5 dodge rams and soon after most of the company's trucks went to dodge.

Also have a good friend that I field trial with that put a Jasper diesel in his Ford 350...its constantly blowing up water pumps. He parked it in the barn three years ago and hasnt touched it. Would love to get that truck and do a cummins conversion on it...great truck.

 

Here's the thing about the warranty misnomer....

If something fails then in order to receive warranty you have to supply the failure for replacement. How much of an inconvenience is that on a scale of 1-10? R&R Labor and down time / rental car coverage there at Jasper?

Like I said I've been down this path before. So yeah a failure may be covered but it still leaves a bunch of monies on the table.

Now if the installer uses a mass produced product and supplies the warranty, will honor it, and cover swap costs then your golden. But if anyone here is like me, I would be the one out the labor. So in place of doing the swap all over again I will elect to buy factory with a dealer network to back it up.

Just sayin.

 

To be honest with you I had never heard of Suncoast, nor a few of other suppliers who's parts ended up in my 48re when it was rebuilt. But I did hear of how this part was junk and that part was junk.
The Person who rebuilt the tranny assured me that the parts he used were excellant, showed everything but the valve body. also showed me oem stuff to compare with.
I had to say I was impressed with what he had done and also had learnt a few more names in tranny parts.
He put me in contact with a few people who he had built trannys for, all were driving Diesels that were hopped up power wise and everyone of them was happy. A couple of them had failures but they attest it to their doing.
I also saved a couple grand for a comparable tranny from one of the big names.

Cheers