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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:27 AM
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Are you guys letting the pump build pressure before cranking it ? That CP3 has to build quite a bit of steam before it will fire . I always turn the key to "on " for 5 seconds or so before I crank it over ............. but I do agree these beasts seem to start better cold than warm ! The fuel filter on my truck was black at 6000 miles that seemed to help .

In a word.. Yes.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mixer Man
Are you guys letting the pump build pressure before cranking it ? That CP3 has to build quite a bit of steam before it will fire . I always turn the key to "on " for 5 seconds or so before I crank it over ............. but I do agree these beasts seem to start better cold than warm ! The fuel filter on my truck was black at 6000 miles that seemed to help .
Hmmm, not real sure, I'll try that though.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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One of the first things I noticed with this 06 compared to my 04 was the lack of intake heater lamp after the engine has been run. The 04 would have to be hot for the light not to come on. This 06 I can drive it 5 miles let it sit outside at 20 degrees for an hour or better and when I go to start it no intake heater lamp. But it starts, so far. You guys mentioned it happens to you when it is warmer out. I have another month or longer before that happens around here.

I'm going to have to watch the volt guage and see if the heater is coming on with out the lamp, or what it is doing.

Point is, I'm wondering if they changed the calibration of the heater and if that is what is causing this problem. Maybe they felt the intake heater was coming on too much in the past? Just a thought.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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Does anyone know if Dodge is aware of this problem? Is there a TSB for just this? It might not be long before there is a recall or something to hopefully make it better.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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My dealer didn't know, but everyone I know who has a G56 has this problem! I had them do "TSB 18-015-05 Revision A" dated 8/17/05. I found it in a issue of TDR. This seemed to help at first, but not anymore. It doesn't matter if it's turned off in or out of gear... I can't figure it out. I will say that I've never had it happen when it's cold. Here is a link to a thread I started https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ad.php?t=94257

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mixer Man
Are you guys letting the pump build pressure before cranking it ? That CP3 has to build quite a bit of steam before it will fire . I always turn the key to "on " for 5 seconds or so before I crank it over ............. but I do agree these beasts seem to start better cold than warm ! The fuel filter on my truck was black at 6000 miles that seemed to help .
Always. I know I don't have to when the motor's warm, but I always wait for the light to go off.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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I called the dealer today and asked him about it. He said they do the TSB and if it doesn't work they call Chrysler and try to find a fix. If enough people have it done and it doesn't work maybe a more perminent fix will ba available.
It's funny.....the gal I first talked to said she has seen this many times but....when she let me talk to the service manager he had "never" heard of it, hummmmm!
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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im having the same problem with my 06. and it sucks becausei run around with a bunchofpeople that love the king ranch. i need a fix because its always hot in oklahoma
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Yep, mine did it again yesterday for the first time in a good few months. Of course, yesterday was one of the warmest days in the past few months too. It's definitely a warmer than colder thing me thinks.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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I had my '06 reflashed before i picked it up 2 weeks ago, and mine starts fine, both cold and warm, much less cranking than my '05
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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03 Dodge not Starting

i have a 03 dodge one ton dually. it has 110,000 miles on it and it started acting up on starting a few weeks ago. i can roll or pull start it just fine but it wont start with the key unless u have run it a while and quickly restart it. the dodge dealer says that the fuel pressure regulator went out causing damage to my injector pump and three injectors. my truck runs better that it ever has and i just dont see how it could be the pump or the injectors. anyway the dealer says it will take 4 grand to fix my truck. i have checked with all the diesel mechanics i can find and they all say the same thing. one guy i talked to says it is the crank censor. if any one has heard of this please let me know. i really dont want to pay 4 grand to fix this thing! i have been around deisels all my life and if there is a problem with the pump or the injectors it will not run smooth, or with out a power loss if it runs at all. they just havent convinced me that this is the problem yet. if you have any info that might help please let me know, my email is joebishop22@yahoo.com
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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Mine will do it if I don't let the pump go for about a full 8 seconds before trying to crank. Don't pay any attention to the wait to start light going out b/c it goes out fast when its warm... go ahead and wait a full 8-10 seconds and see if it doesn't start normally. I've asked my worthless local dealer about and its normal to them just like the popping sounds coming from my clutch cylinder.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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have the cp3 pressure checked.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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Mine does this too, i had mine reflashed due to white smoke on startup and horrible mileage (13 was a good day) and it has only done it once since then. Seems to definately helped, and mileage went way up!
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Cowboy45
Could you guys tell me what the TSB is? I'm trying to catch up on all the lingo and get back into the swing of things. I've only had my truck a month so I'm still learning. Thanks.
Here is one you may look at:
NUMBER: 18-003-06

SUBJECT:
Flash: Long Crank When Starting And/Or Transmission Shift And Battery Charging
Enhancements
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves Flash reprogramming the PCM (Cummins) with new software.
MODELS:
2006 DH/D1 Ram Truck Heavy Duty
NOTE: This bulletin applies to Ram trucks equipped with the 5.9L Cummins 24-valve
diesel engine (sales code ETH) built on or after June 9, 2005 through and
including November 8, 2005 (MDH 0609XX and 1108XX).
SYMPTOM/CONDITIONS:
The vehicle operator may experience extended engine crank time in cold ambient
temperatures on vehicle equipped with manual transmissions.
This Flash also provides the following enhancements:
· Improved Automatic Transmission shifting
· Engine fan is activated if the coolant temperature sensor fails
· Enhanced battery charging
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