3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007 5.9 liter Engine and drivetrain discussion only. PLEASE, NO HIGH PERFORMANCE DISCUSSION!

Grid heater - when is it worth it???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 06:40 AM
  #1  
Digidydog's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Houston, Tx
Grid heater - when is it worth it???

I live in Houston and i'm guessing there are never any days when the temps get to where it actually warrants having a grid heater. I do, however, make a few trips up north every year or so, but nothing more than a good week at a time.

What temp does this thing actually benefit from a grid heater? The truck came from Alaska so i'm sure it could have used it up there. I was going to add an intake manifold and put a grid heater delete in there unless someone had a compelling argument as to why i shouldn't.
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 12:41 PM
  #2  
ssandlin's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 743
Likes: 1
From: Del Rio, TX
Delete it if you want, but evidently Cummins thinks its a good idea to have one. I believe the magic temperature is 59F or less at the grid heater location will cause it to come on.

Maybe try sending an email to Cummins and asking them that question before you delete it.
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 03:22 PM
  #3  
luke03cr's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
From: clinton, tn
Your grid heater cycles on at 59 like you said. But it is there for a reason, when temps get cold it gets harder to ignite the fuel mixture just on compression alone. this is bc when u compress the fuel it becomes super heated and ignites. Now if u have very cold fuel and air then obviously this cld become a challenge. There is no reason you should delete the grid heater,as it serves a good purpose. If your not sure just think about if you go up north 1 week and its very cold and you dont have your grid heater, then your truck wont start and your stranded wherever. now tell me if that doesnt make it worth keeping.
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 04:45 PM
  #4  
carl48's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,646
Likes: 4
From: ruidoso new mexico
the grid heater is for emmission control the industrial 5.9 does not come with one. the cummins part # for the block without the heater is 3922484. i have a fleet of dodges and they start just fine at 20* below zero with no heaters
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 09:46 PM
  #5  
SpeedyWS6's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 492
Likes: 0
From: Longview, Tx
I have been running my 6.7 without a grid heater for over a year. It will smoke a touch on a cold morning, but I have never had trouble with it starting.
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 05:01 PM
  #6  
carl48's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,646
Likes: 4
From: ruidoso new mexico
speedy you got it, this is the only thing the grid heater was for. it was not cummins idea it was epa
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 06:18 PM
  #7  
banyon's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 321
Likes: 0
I`m in the south also but it was 27 this morning. I unplugged my grid heater just to see what it would do. It started just as quick. I`m leaving mine stock but I just thought I`d pass that along to you.
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 07:35 PM
  #8  
whiskers's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 609
Likes: 0
From: Malakoff, TX
I simply don't wait for it to warm things up unless it's near freezing or lower. Why delete it if you don't spend the time waiting for the wait to start light to go out?
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 07:38 PM
  #9  
jumper's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 296
Likes: 8
Why would you care whether its there or not? Does it materially affect airflow? Are you that tight on air, if so?
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2012 | 02:13 AM
  #10  
DaveB.inVa's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 776
Likes: 1
From: Nickelsville, Va
Like others have said the grid heater is an emissions control. When its cold enough and conditions are just right I can watch the exhaust and see the haze change according to when the grid heater cycles on and off.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2012 | 10:28 AM
  #11  
carl48's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,646
Likes: 4
From: ruidoso new mexico
we were trying many different things for better mpg when the cr's first came out in 03. the best combination was the cfm+ and grid delete payback will occur sometime around 2015

Reply
Old Jan 14, 2012 | 12:40 PM
  #12  
torquefan's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 4,449
Likes: 47
From: Calgary, Alberta
Up here, you can tell by the way the truck starts if one of the grids isn't working on a cold winter morning. In the cold, they do make a difference, and I never saw a downside to having them. They can draw a lot of current, but it's not like our trucks are nearly as hard on alternators as some others are.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2012 | 12:56 PM
  #13  
Spooler's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,902
Likes: 5
From: Claxton, GA
Leave it in. Unless you are pushing some serious HP it won't make much of a difference. If it is broke, then that is a different story.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2012 | 03:25 PM
  #14  
Sur5er's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
From: Upstate NY
Just bought a nice billet one on eBay-$55, delivered I figure I'll try it out and see what it does/doesn't do and go from there. Maybe I'll even try my hand at fabricating an air horn this Spring. If anyone has done one before, sing out! No sense in everyone making the same mistakes twice
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2012 | 05:54 PM
  #15  
BLACKBEAR's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 427
Likes: 1
If he has the engine heater he can plug it in when up north if it gets that cold.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:07 AM.