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Grid heater - when is it worth it???

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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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Anyone know of a delete thats made of steel instead of aluminum?
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 06:31 AM
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Yeah I was just going to change my intake out and figured while I was in there I would get rid of the grid. I do have a block heater anyhow so when I end up in the cold I can always plug it in if need be.

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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Yeah I was just going to change my intake out and figured while I was in there I would get rid of the grid. I do have a block heater anyhow so when I end up in the cold I can always plug it in if need be.

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What happens if you end up having to stay somewhere that you can't get an extension chord to your truck in the cold? Just a thought?
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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What do you do with the hot leads?
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 07:11 AM
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So I received a response from the cummins guys who said that it is not a necessity.
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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...that is good and great but what is the advantage of removing it?
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 03:37 PM
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Run a push button 12v key on hot to trigger your relays, ground them with the other small post. Then you can turn them on when you need it, and you avoid the unnecessary wear on alternator and,batteries.

06-07 will probably trip check engine light occasionally with computer wires to relay unhooked
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 04:14 PM
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So yeah, 2 years later here we are... I still don't think there's any way this thing is beneficial what-so-ever. For those who have just joined this discussion, remember we're talking about a GRID HEATER, not the block heater - two totally different things. The grid heater is just that, a grid that heats up for very short times after start up (cycles on and off) and stops once you reach 20 mph. I don't like it because i have enough troubles with burning out light bulbs etc, i don't need all these amps cycling in and out of the system and causing the huge voltage drop every time i start my truck at less than 60°.

That being said, i tried just unplugging it and it gave me a check engine light. Anyone have a simple way to delete this thing?

06' Ram 2500 5.9L 6 spd
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 04:52 PM
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Run a search here on the subject for directions.

Deleting for me provided about 5 psi less boost restriction at the top end.
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 12:46 AM
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Grid heaters on these trucks serve many purposes. They do help in the aid of starting. They continue to warm the intake air to help in getting good combustion. Getting good combustion helps with the "emissions" but also helps in not washing down cylinders with raw fuel that's not being burnt on a cold engine. This will help you have an engine that lasts. Over the course of a normal days driving this could prove to be many starts with many raw fuel moments on the cylinders. Unlike an "industrial" engine where its started and usually put right to work and ran all day your daily driven cummins diesel truck may never get fully warmed up on cold cold days.


No matter if these trucks start at extreme cold without a grid heater the truck with the grid heater is going to start easier and be ready to go faster then the non grid trucks and have less stress put on it. Be thankful that these engines will start in extreme cold without the grid heater. That's a back up plan if they should fail. Lots of diesel engines of all types wont do a thing in the cold weather if the heater systems fail or are not used.


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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Digidydog
So yeah, 2 years later here we are... I still don't think there's any way this thing is beneficial what-so-ever. For those who have just joined this discussion, remember we're talking about a GRID HEATER, not the block heater - two totally different things. The grid heater is just that, a grid that heats up for very short times after start up (cycles on and off) and stops once you reach 20 mph. I don't like it because i have enough troubles with burning out light bulbs etc, i don't need all these amps cycling in and out of the system and causing the huge voltage drop every time i start my truck at less than 60°.

That being said, i tried just unplugging it and it gave me a check engine light. Anyone have a simple way to delete this thing?

06' Ram 2500 5.9L 6 spd
Did you unplug it on the battery or unplug the control wires on relays?

I had good luck on my 06 & 07 leaving the control wires hooked up and removing the battery cables, computer still gets to send a signal to relays so it stays happy. Once in a blue moon I would get a code, like maybe 1-2 times a year.


I never needed grid heat on 06 or 07, common rails start very well. My 99 needed it the past few days being around zero where I'm working, I have the relays wired to a button, held for 10 seconds and fired right off
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Digidydog
So yeah, 2 years later here we are... I still don't think there's any way this thing is beneficial what-so-ever. For those who have just joined this discussion, remember we're talking about a GRID HEATER, not the block heater - two totally different things. The grid heater is just that, a grid that heats up for very short times after start up (cycles on and off) and stops once you reach 20 mph. I don't like it because i have enough troubles with burning out light bulbs etc, i don't need all these amps cycling in and out of the system and causing the huge voltage drop every time i start my truck at less than 60°.

That being said, i tried just unplugging it and it gave me a check engine light. Anyone have a simple way to delete this thing?

06' Ram 2500 5.9L 6 spd
yes, buy a ford
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