Upgrade 2nd Gen brakes to 3rd Gen? - Dodge Diesel - Diesel Truck Resource Forums



2nd Gen. Dodge Ram - No Drivetrain Discussion for all Dodge Rams from 1994 through 2002. Please, no engine or drivetrain discussion.

Upgrade 2nd Gen brakes to 3rd Gen?

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-22-2006, 01:45 PM   #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 201
Upgrade 2nd Gen brakes to 3rd Gen?

Is it possible to upgrade 2nd Gen 2WD 2500 front brakes to the larger 3500 3rd Gen rotors and calipers? Yea, yea...I seached.
gator_grabber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2006, 12:02 AM   #2  
CJ
Registered User
 
CJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: oregon
Posts: 291
I've heard certain 02 4x4's can. Not sure about 4x2's or which 4x4's can.
I would like to know myself for the future.
CJ
CJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2006, 06:34 AM   #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 201
I'll be surprised if it can't be done somehow, but I've been wrong before...once already today!
gator_grabber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2006, 08:18 AM   #4  
Chapter President
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: A state of Missery (Missouri)
Posts: 1,763
I know that the 3rd gen 17inch rims on the duallys work, match up with a 235 16 almost perfectly in height.
Tree DR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2006, 09:40 AM   #5  
Registered User
 
kawi600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Boston, mASS
Posts: 2,902
Im real interested in this too, since my front brakes are all new and they still stink.
Oversized rotors and 4 piston calipers would do nicely.
kawi600 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2006, 02:40 PM   #6  
Registered User
 
Homestead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Sundre, Alberta
Posts: 1,257
I think the biggest problem will the axles themselves.

The 3rd Gen's use American Axle diffs where the 2nd Gens run Dana stuff. This means that you just can't "bolt on" the brake assemblies from a 3rd Gen.

Your looking at some bracketry fabrication to make it all happen. The bigger brake size shouldn't come into play, you just run 17 inch wheels.

I would just look for an aftermarket setup for the 2nd Gen.

Jeff
Homestead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2006, 02:42 PM   #7  
Registered User
 
Homestead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Sundre, Alberta
Posts: 1,257
Guess I should have read the original post a little closer.

2wd, I don't know, but I'm sure Mother Chrysler did something to screw things up and make it difficult.

I'll go back to the corner and learn to read again.

Jeff
Homestead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2006, 06:37 AM   #8  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 201
Homestead, no problems. How about this then...are there any differences in the 3rd gen front brakes? I'm thinking about hitting the salvage yards and comparing the 2nd and 3rd steering knuckles to each other, side by side. That should help.
gator_grabber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2006, 11:47 AM   #9  
Registered User
 
Pooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 2,627
Quote:
Originally Posted by gator_grabber
Homestead, no problems. How about this then...are there any differences in the 3rd gen front brakes? I'm thinking about hitting the salvage yards and comparing the 2nd and 3rd steering knuckles to each other, side by side. That should help.
Please do....


Id like to know, Id swap mine for 3rd gens in a heartbeat...
Pooter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2006, 08:13 PM   #10  
Registered User
 
Stamey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Powhatan, Virginia
Posts: 2,723
The first thing you can do is compare the calipers, and wheel bearings, in an auto parts store. That's what I did when I was looking to upgrade my 99 brakes to 2000, dual piston calipers. They sure don't mount the same, and with my 4x4, I found they changed the knuckle and ball joint configuration between 99 and 2000.
Anyway, you could get wheel bearings for yours and a 3rd gen, and see if they are the same or not, which will get you started. The knuckles may or may not be the same.

Chris
Stamey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2006, 09:05 PM   #11  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 201
Being that I have 2WD, I'm actually looking at the possibility of a complete spindle swap; that would wrap everything into one, neat package. Want to bet Dodge did something that's going to sink this otherwise great plan?
gator_grabber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2006, 10:24 PM   #12  
Registered User
 
Stamey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Powhatan, Virginia
Posts: 2,723
Well heck, you just have to find a 2wd 3rd gen 2500 someplace and peer under it, with your truck parked next to it. You might just stop at a dealer and have a look. You should be able to get enough idea to decide if it's worth researching any more. I know where you're coming from. I did the same thing with my 99, except to a 2000-2002.

Chris
Stamey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2006, 08:49 AM   #13  
Registered User
 
Pooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 2,627
Quote:
Originally Posted by gator_grabber
Being that I have 2WD, I'm actually looking at the possibility of a complete spindle swap; that would wrap everything into one, neat package. Want to bet Dodge did something that's going to sink this otherwise great plan?
Of course!


Im betting on the fact that no one has done it before either....
Im sure it can be done, but might not be as easy as swapping stuff over, itll probably take some fabrication....

Are there any alternatives for front brakes?(To 2/4 piston calipers, and or larger rotors)
Pooter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2006, 08:01 PM   #14  
Registered User
 
Lt.B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Va. beach Va.
Posts: 73
Ive been thru this drill on a 1500 4x4. They put these puny rotors and single piston calipers on a 6000 lb truck and expect it to stop.....I wanted to go up to 2000 stuff. Larger rotors and calipers. The knuckles have to be changed and of course all the other hardware. It wasnt worth it. A good set of Brembo crossdrilled rotors was recomended. I guess it beats replacing warped rotors every year with a resurface in the middle. My 2500 4x4 stops great with stock stuff...but I dont have to ask " wheres the beef ?"
Lt.B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2006, 10:35 PM   #15  
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 0
I love my twin piston calipers all the way around.
BigBlue is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
3rd gen 3rd brake light on a 2nd gen? anonymous_1 2nd Gen. Dodge Ram - No Drivetrain 10 08-21-2015 10:09 AM
How to add 2nd Gen / 3rd Gen Towing mirrors to a 1st Gen CTD BRUISER 1st Gen. Ram - All Topics 11 02-02-2015 11:25 AM
2nd gen brakes on 3rd gen truck Tank_66 3rd Generation Ram - Non Drivetrain - All Years 8 03-27-2010 08:33 PM
3rd gen front brakes on 2nd gen Fishin2Deep4U 24 Valve Engine and Drivetrain 8 04-24-2009 07:43 PM
3rd Gen disc brakes on 2nd gen truck? Tackett 2nd Gen. Dodge Ram - No Drivetrain 2 05-16-2004 11:17 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:18 AM.


Copyright 2017, DieselTruckResource.com
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.