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Old May 5, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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Big Brake update

Turns out the caliper mounts on Dodges are bolt on and the 2nd and 3rd gens have the same pattern. Pick up a set of third gen brackets and Rotors and bolt them up and you now have 33% more stopping power. Also the same can be done on the earlier trucks but you have to buy the twin piston calipers.

And I almost forgot, Larger rims.

My brakes are almost gone on the front and 19.5s are coming. I'll check dealer pricing today
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Old May 5, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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Please explain as I'm getting ready to do a brake job (rotors, calipers and all) on my 94.

If I'm reading your post correctly I can get a set of 3rd gen calipers, mounts and rotors and they'll fit my truck? What all is involved in this swap and is it all gonna be bolt up? What all do I need?
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Old May 5, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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I had originally talked to EMS about making custom mounts for the calipers. They told me that after investigating, the found out that the mounting holes are the same on all the axles. For the earlier trucks, they said that you would need;

2003 0r later caliper brackets (price I got today 59.00 each)
2003 or later rotors
2000 or later twin piston calipers
17" or larger wheels

none of this has been confirmed by me, yet
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Old May 6, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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Lemme know when you find out. I'd love to put em on my 94...
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Old May 6, 2007 | 01:41 AM
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Would this stuff also fit on my 98.5 (reason for asking is that the disks are on the other side of the wheel flange than with the later models)

Sounds like a nice idea if you have to do the brakes.

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Old May 6, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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Yeah - I want to retrofit these to the '98!
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Old May 6, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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That's strange, EMS told me they were the same. IF there not, the 98 and earlier may have to change the hubs. I'll check this out tomorrow. Since I'm a 2000, the rotors just slip on and I have the two piston calipers. All I need are the brackets and rotors. I'll be doing them in June when I get the 19.5s
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Old May 6, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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This one I need to follow!
I think us earlier guys will need to change to the slide on rotors.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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This one I need to follow!
I think us earlier guys will need to change to the slide on rotors.

Yes, this is worth investigating...of course, I just swapped in new rotors, calipers, brakes etc.....
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Old May 6, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
Yes, this is worth investigating...of course, I just swapped in new rotors, calipers, brakes etc.....
I know your pain Doc...
I cant count the times I have read about a great idea on this site right after spending needless money
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Old May 10, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Just got off the phone with EMS. It looks like the 94-98 trucks with the early style rotors can up date to the newer style by changing out your knuckles and add all the newer components. If some one has a truck they can measure to compare with the newer trucks they should be able to confirm this. Also found out that Dodge has confirmed that all of the later components are interchangeable.

Hope this helps
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Old May 10, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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I've got a 94 that I can measure. PM me with what measurements I need to take...
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Old May 11, 2007 | 12:34 AM
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Whats the distance between the upper and lower knuckle and on the axle. I'll measure mine tomorrow.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 01:33 AM
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How about the 98.5 to 02, or 99's specifically?
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Old May 11, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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The 00 - 02 outer knuckles, bearing hubs, calipers, caliper mounts and rotors are all different than the 94 - 99 parts to allow for the slip on rotor assembly and twin piston calipers. That said, the outer knuckles are interchangeable so it is possible to covert all the knuckles-out parts on a 94 - 99 to the later 00 - 02 set up.....that certainly wouldn't be very cheap though!
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