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Old 11-06-2006, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 2500Ram
More info please, I'm experiencing the same symptoms, 16 psi idle down to 10 idle for no reason. yes I have an isolator but I re-bled the entire thing this weekend and new fuel filter same symptoms, couldn't get new fuel fittings on a Sunday in this one horse town for the needle valve I bought to get rid of the isolator.

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Basically Muddy told me that someone had low fuel pressure and they installed 2-3 new pumps and the fuel pressure never came up... Still remained low. Well they got smart and replaced the over flow valve on the VP44 and the problem was fixed...



Take notice to the opening pressure listed for the overflow valve... You might want to download this FSM manual to read too...

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Old 11-07-2006, 03:26 PM
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Do the 2001' CTDs have more than the LP and IP?
****, PLEASE don't tell me I have another pump IN the tank... !!!!
If so VULCAN here I come.
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Old 11-07-2006, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pocketchange
Do the 2001' CTDs have more than the LP and IP?
****, PLEASE don't tell me I have another pump IN the tank... !!!!
If so VULCAN here I come.
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In stock form the 2001 only had a single LP on the side of the engine. But if someone took it to the dealer for warranty work the dealer will pull the LP from the side of the block and throw it out and retro fit a lift pump in the tank. (Junk )

Now what you got to do is figure out if the LP is on the engine or in the tank...
Old 11-07-2006, 07:22 PM
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OH, I guess I'm OK.
I've just ordered a Glacier Set-up, now I'm needing to find someone that needs a pair of new campaign LPs. $64.90 per (I need to remove one).
No more LP BLUES, problem solved...!
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Old 11-08-2006, 09:13 PM
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if i was planing on keeping mine, id do the draw straw, big line kit with holly blue..........but im not, so i just want to fix it like it will work right, with out screwin over whoever buys it.
Old 11-09-2006, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mopar1973man
You might check the overflow valve on the VP44... I've heard stories of the check valve inside failing and allowing the pressure to flow back to the tank....
Anyone where you can get a overflow valve? I removed and bypassed my stock lift pump, just have the carter 4601HP mounted on the frame. Still only getting 8psi at idle (used to get 15) so guess it may be the overflow valve.
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Originally Posted by Flyinb
Anyone where you can get a overflow valve? I removed and bypassed my stock lift pump, just have the carter 4601HP mounted on the frame. Still only getting 8psi at idle (used to get 15) so guess it may be the overflow valve.
Originally Posted by Dodge FSM - How to Diagnose Overflow Valve
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Fuel volume from the fuel transfer (lift) pump will always provide more fuel than the fuel injection pump requires. The overflow valve (a check valve) is used to route excess fuel through the fuel return line and back to the fuel tank. Approximately 70% of supplied fuel is returned to the fuel tank. The valve opens at approximately 97 kPa (14 psi). If the check valve within the assembly is sticking open, fuel drainage of the injection pump could cause hard starting.

DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING - OVERFLOW VALVE

Fuel volume from the fuel transfer (lift) pump will always provide more fuel than the fuel injection pump requires. The overflow valve (a check valve) is used to route excess fuel through the fuel return line and back to the fuel tank. Approximately 70% of supplied fuel is returned to the fuel tank. The valve is located on the side of the injection pump (Fig. 59). It
is also used to connect the fuel return line (banjo fitting) to the fuel injection pump. The valve opens at approximately 97 kPa (14 psi). If the check valve within the assembly is sticking, low engine power or
hard starting may result. If a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) has been stored for “decreased engine performance due to high injection pump fuel temperature”, the overflow valve may be stuck in closed position. A rubber tipped blow gun with regulated air line pressure is needed for this test.

(1) Clean area around overflow valve and fuel return line at injection pump before removal.
(2) Remove valve from pump and banjo fitting.
(3) Discard old sealing gaskets.
(4) Set regulated air pressure to approximately 97 kPa (14–16 psi).
(5) Using blow gun, apply pressure to overflow valve inlet end (end that goes into injection pump).
(6) Internal check valve should release, and air should pass through valve at 97 kPa (14–16 psi). If not, replace valve.
(7) Reduce regulated air pressure to 10 psi and observe valve. Valve should stay shut. If not, replace valve.
(8) Install new sealing gaskets to valve.
(9) Install valve through banjo fitting and into pump.
(10) Tighten to 30 N·m (24 ft. lbs.) torque.
As for where to get one at I would try NAPA.. But then Cummins then Dodge Dealer... In that order too...
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thats the big bolt on the line closest to the gear cover on the vp, right?


personaly id check with a cummins dealer first
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Pictures say a thousand words...

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thanks, that's what i thought it was....do yall got any idea how much it will cost?
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Nope... Haven't a clue... sorry dude...
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well i'll call cummins dealer that the shop oders form(mabey get a better price) and i'll let yall know.

im hoping thats what it is.
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Exclamation

well i replaced the valve it was $30 form interstate injection. and it didnt fix my problem.....i borrowed a almost new campagin pump(off a buddys truck that got a fass) and same thing idle around 6-8 and below 1psi at 1500 and the gauge is about where -3 should be at wot
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Do you have a bad flex hose (collasped) or a kink in a line. Remove the line from the tank and check it and the assembly in the tank for problems.
Something is getting in the way on the vacumn side of the system.
Also check your voltage going to the LP pump and insure the connection is clean and solid.
I have a Vulcan Big Line LP Kit (new in box) if you think you need it.
Good Luck,
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:23 PM
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i quess im gonna pull the bed off this week as much as i hate to. and see what the deal is.
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