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Old May 31, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Question Erratic Fuel Pressure

I installed a fuel pressure gauge 6 months ago. Mechanical
with no isolator. Worked great , 16 psi @ idle , 14 psi@ cruise ,
and 11 psi@ WOT. Last week went on a three day business trip
and left the truck in long term parking for the three days. Noticed
right away at idle gauge was jumping around , down to 9 psi, up to
16 psi , back down etc. Been this way for the whole week. Only does it
at idle. As soon as I put it in gear and put a load on the truck the gauge
acts normal - 14 psi@ cruising and 11 psi@ WOT , steady. Only acts funny
when I'm stopped and @ idle. Is it the pump going bad or a bad electrical
connection ? Lift pump and filter were replaced 4500 miles ago.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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I'd check the wiring first, but that's exactly what my fuel pressures started doing a month ago.
(Flakey pressures only at idle, once over 1500 rpm, saw good pressure)
One new lift pump later, and all's well again.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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Whats the warreny situation on these lift pumps. I bought this one
new from Cummins West about 4 months ago.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Not too sure, might be worth a phone call to find out though.

My two pumps were replaced about 40,000 miles apart.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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I had a simiilar problem. New LP solved it.

dIma
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Old May 31, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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The part I don't understand is if the lift pump was going bad,
wouldn't it cause low pressures under WOT. This pump is only
4 months old , I changed out my old pump even though I was
still getting 11 psi@ cruising and 7 psi @ WOT. New pump bumped
everything up to 16 psi and now it only lasts 4 months
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Old May 31, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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I had the same problem, fuel pressure fluxuating. Liftpump and Vp replaced about 3 months prior. Dealership was going to replace liftpump again. Decided not too keep havin to worry about repeated L/p problems. Installed FASS II, problem solved.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by Dieselcamper
The part I don't understand is if the lift pump was going bad,
wouldn't it cause low pressures under WOT. This pump is only
4 months old , I changed out my old pump even though I was
still getting 11 psi@ cruising and 7 psi @ WOT. New pump bumped
everything up to 16 psi and now it only lasts 4 months
It baffled the heck outta me when mine did the same thing.
All I know is with one new pump installed, I again have a rock solid 16 psi @ idle.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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Mine did the same thing. One new LP back to 15psi for 120 miles then 0psi. On the plus side the next LP last 140 miles.
Stock LP =
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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6 month warranty on Cummins lift pumps.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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Do you think the motor/pump bearings can get worn enough to set up a "wobble" when the pressure is likely to drop until the wobble corrects and everything runs good again...kinda like a bad heater blower motor?
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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It could also be the pump's relief (spill) valve hanging up at idle. When the pressure drops a bit (load on the engine), the valve finally closes and pressures stabilize.

Rusty
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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Im having fluctuation problems for last 2 months now at all conditions with stock and pusher set up. my holley works fine alone but the stock pump skips. i start at 20 psi and some times goes to 15 or 11 when ever it wants. I got my pump from heath diesel and bill said he would waranty my pump if if would go bad. so i told him bout it and he said might be something else. i ran each pump seperately and the holley is doin fine stock one is fluctuating even by it self. I have the holley wired off the stock pump harness and thought it might be drawing to much power but the stock pump just wont run to its fullest either way. I told bill that stuff to and he still thinks my pump is fine and now he isnt helping me after saying he will waranty my pump for its life.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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All day today, mine was dropping to about 6 psi. I could pop the go pedal and it would go back up...? I changed the two week old fuel filter, and it cruised the 40 miles home at a steady 12 psi. No crude in the filter and it was still pretty clean looking (not charcoal gray like a 10 k filter).

Hopefully it will last until Sunday when I install my new FASS II.
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