Okay all, I finally had time to take my truck in for what I was hoping would be a new injecction pump under warranty(98600 miles). I have had dead pedal, and a 0216 code for ovver 6 months. It seems like I get dead pedal more often when I tow or when it's hot outside (above 90). I told all of this to the dealer except for the 0216 code part. I'm testing a new dealer out since moving and want to checck their integrity, haven't had much luck with dealers in the past. They did tell me that they would give it a diagnostic, but the guy at the dealer who test drove it of course found no dead pedal. I told him that it's intermittent and he said that it sounds like my throttle position sensor. I am playing dumb for right now, but if they call me tomorrow and say it's not my injecction pump, I will be , beccause I know the VP44 is dead because of the 0216 code. These dealers should know about the bad VP44's by now, I just think he doesn't want to fork it out under warranty. What do you guys think? Has anyone been in a situation like this? Do you think they will replace my VP44 when they find the 0216 code? I'm trying to be optimistic, but poor warranty work at other dealerships has me skeptical.

 

Well i think you should have tried to get it to the shop 6 months ago. It would have givin you more time, instead of just 1500 miles to work with the dealer. But you never know, if they see the codes, they might change the pumps. The dealers get paid for warrenty work also, but i dont think it is as much as a regular repair. Hope everything turns out good. Some dealers are very easy to work with and try to do the right things.

 

The skeptic in me says they will try and replace other parts until either the warranty is up or they fix the issue. Did the dealer do a diagnostic scan and if so, what did they find?? If they find the 0216 then who knows....

You might want to come up with a good reason why you have non-factory hose clamp on your wastegate(assuming you're using the clamp that came with the edge boost elbow)...

 

They are doing a diagnostic tomorrow, I took off the boost fooler electrical connections, but forgot to take off the elbow.

 

By procedure you would check and note any stored DTC's, perform a fuel volume test....assuming it passes, road test after clearing codes and see if p0216 shows. If it comes on you would be on the road to new VPville. I've also found that running the engine at higher rpms will often bring a p0216 back if it's going to set (gear it down and tach it up!)

During the summer we see ALOT of p0216 codes with no drivability problems so it's not always the kiss of death people make it out to be although the "dead pedal" would be the clincher in this case.

 

Look for another dealer. I had the same problem and went to a local dealer. He trouble shot, changed fuel filter(which I had already done), checked transmission. All of this even though the code was 0216. He reset the code and it did not reappear, until I was on the way home and $182.00 lighter in my wallet. I called them back and they said they would not go by the code, but had to prove the VP was bad. Had another truck with the same problem and did not know what the problem was. I carried mine to a different dealer and within 3 hours, they called back and told me the VP was bad and would change it under warranty. After it was repaired I went back to the first dealer and ask for a refund and told the service manager what the problem was. He said he did not know how the other dealer found out what the problem was and how he got by ordering a VP since Chrysler has to approve it. Sounds like one dealer knows what they are doing. He would not give me a refund. I went home, wrote a letter to the dealer with copies of work orders and also sent a copy to Chrysler. I received a check for $162.00 and an appology. They do not have to worry about my business anymore.

 

I am having dead pedal issues too but no p0216 code just the p0122 and p0236 codes. I have replaced the apps and recalibrated and reset with no avail. I called a dealer to get some advice. The first one told me that dodge doesn't work on diesels, I would have to take it to a diesel shop! The second dealer told me that they would start out with a new vp even if the other isn't bad, then a new wiring harness, then a new ecm, then another apps till they find it, oh yeah, all out of warranty. Talk about a kick in the pants!

I hate dealers

Cory

 

.....so you "throw parts" and it's diagnosis.
.....they throw parts and you "hate them".

If you're setting the P0236 take the EZ off, clear the codes, drive it awile and see how things go. Biggest thing is to take the EZ out of the loop so that if you do find someone to diag it, they'll be able know they are working with a "factory" type situation.

.....and if I was "thowing" with your money I would go with the VP.

 

J BODY, There is a difference between an untrained owner who will risk a little
$$ to save a trip to a dealer/service shop, and the skill level of a TRAINED TECH at a dealer, isn't there?
I'm not trying to start something just asking for a little clarification.

 

I had "Dead Pedal" two months after replacing my VP-44.
It WAS the APPS.
Replaced same, problem fixed.

 

...well we all hope there is, but I have the feeling with the intermittant nature of this (as many are) that even if he did drop it off for diag most likely he would walk away mad because he ended up paying someone that seemingly couldn't find "anything wrong". It's easy to fix "broke"...it's another thing to search for a dead pedal that may hit twice a week on a few times a month. Unfortunately they (dealer B) are correct that the issue may be ecm (doubt it), wiring (seen that), or a VP (gets my vote). One thing you could do is to hardwire the APPS to the ecm. That would remove the harness out of the loop.

......and as far as him being upset at Dealer A? At least they were honest and told him up front "hey, we don't have a diesel tech, you'll have to take it elsewhere".

 

Stopped by the dealer last night just before the service shop closed(6P.M.), after they failed to call me all day. The guy told me that he wanted to run it cold in the morning and that they found no codes. I controlled myself, but wanted to tell the guy he was a freggin idiot. There was a 0216 and 1693 code 5 minutes before I took it in. I told the guy that if he really wants to diagnose my truck, then he needs to come live with me and drive with me everyday, that's how intermittent it is this time of year. I have a strong feeling that they cleared the codes and just want to see if if comes back, and with my luck it will run like a peach. Just a hunch, but I'm thinking no new VP44, at least from this dealer.

 

hodiesel,
Check your warrenty book, the cummin's 100K warrenty starts at the end of the dc warrenty, Think is on page 11. Good luck

 

I have heard that before. But has it actually worked for anyone. In my warranty book it does say that the 100,000 mile cummins warranty starts at the end of the 36,000 warranty, but I'm thinking it's a misprint or misunderstanding. When the dealer printed off my work order, he said that I only have 1400 miles left on my cummins warranty, which she's at 98,600 now. My wife is attending Law School, so if this turns sour I may seek legal action if I go over 100,000 miles thanks to the misprint. I'm sure they won't fix it under warranty just because of what it says in the warranty book.

 

sorry didn't realize borrowing a good apps off another truck was throwing money at my truck, huh, stupid me free parts=throwing money .

EZ has been off awhile, so that ain't an issue. VP is putting out good pressure, so why pee away $1200 if I Don't have too. I am a freaking idiot, thanks for the helpful post.

Cory