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Anyone else notice there's a 7micron FF for VP trucks?

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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Anyone else notice there's a 7micron FF for VP trucks?

I saw it on Geno's site, and was wondering if anyone was using them, specifically if there was a big drop in FP.

The later 2nd gen trucks share the FF housing with the 3rd gen's so the new super-duper FFs they come out with for the HPCR trucks will also work on a later 2nd gen.

I'm ordering a couple of the 7mic filters. Has to help VP life over a 10 micron filter.....


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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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Nice find, going to order a couple of them myself

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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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looks like the same oil filter can be used on both 2nd &3rd gens, anyone know for sure?
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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I'd seen that too, and was wondering if they would work in our trucks. If so then i'll start buying some new FF's.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Yes, oil filters are identical. The only difference in the 16035 vs the 3789 is the fluted can at the bottom for a cap-style filter wrench.

I'm running a on Donaldson Endurance full flow-- AWESOME! The oil stays clean a lot longer than before.

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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I seem to recall reading that the finer particulate filters, like the 7 micron could actually hurt rather than help, because their fine filtration could cause a loss in pressure.
Honestly don't know if this was opinion, or fact, I just remember reading about the finer filtration thing.

Along that line, couple of years back, Heavy Duty Trucking magazine published an article about filters, and how they performed in different engines.
This article was concerning the Class 8 engines, in the big rigs, (so it might not be of any use toward the smaller line of engines.)

Engine brands used for the tests were Caterpillar, Cummins, Detroit, and Mack.
Owning a Cat engine in my Big Rig, I was really interested in the Cat info, and while I don't remember what filter brands were used, and how they scored, a couple of things caught my attention.

Cat was most sensitive to dirty/wet fuel.
Cummins was least sensitive.
Cat brand filters provided more protection for Cat engines.
Fleetgard was rated very high.

Once again, this was for the Class 8 engines, and may not mean squat for our motors.
As I'm typing this my curiousity is now aroused, & I'm going to see if I can find that article, and read through it again.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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OK, it sounds to me like the problem is lack of FP, not excessive fuel cleanliness, if you get my meaning.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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This isn't the article I was talking about, but it does touch on the topic.

http://www.heavydutytrucking.com/2003/10/086a0310.asp

Now back to the hunt.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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And to contradict myself:

http://www.heavydutytrucking.com/1997/10/146b9710.asp
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HOHN
I saw it on Geno's site, and was wondering if anyone was using them, specifically if there was a big drop in FP.

The later 2nd gen trucks share the FF housing with the 3rd gen's so the new super-duper FFs they come out with for the HPCR trucks will also work on a later 2nd gen.

I'm ordering a couple of the 7mic filters. Has to help VP life over a 10 micron filter.....


justin
i use 2 micron by racor mounted on frame before fuel pumps, i have a solid 15 psi at idle
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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Anyone know what micron rating the stock filter is? I pump my bio diesel thru a 10 micron as I fill.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by HOHN
OK, it sounds to me like the problem is lack of FP, not excessive fuel cleanliness, if you get my meaning.
Yeah, if it's clogged, then down goes your pressure.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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I have had a 2 micron (aftermarket Racor) filter on my truck all winter and didn't seem to have any problems. I meant to switch to 10 in the winter but didn't put enough miles on the filter to warrant it.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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I'm ordering a couple of the 7mic filters. Has to help VP life over a 10 micron filter.....
Just keep telling yourself that HOHN!
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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I use a Racor 690 2 micron filter also

Originally Posted by johnh
i use 2 micron by racor mounted on frame before fuel pumps, i have a solid 15 psi at idle
I've been using it for the past 3years I run about 25psi at idle it usually dosn't drop below 18psi at WOT.
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