I have been researching the POD's, and may be able to get some for my truck. From what I have been reading they run hot on the EGT's when towing, and have a lot of haze at idle.

I do haul a 5th wheel but it is a pretty small one 26', it is actually 1/2 ton towable. I also tow cars on occasion, and my Jeep to the dunes, but I don't tow any 12K trailers on a regular basis.

I have a Powerstroke Intercooler on my truck and I believe that it is larger than the Dodge ones. I also have the smokey power pin, adjusted the pump, advanced the timing, I have a larger compressor side turbo, big exhaust and BHAF type setup.

So my question is I should I consider the POD's for this application? What kind of power gains should I see? Can I control the haze at idle, or excessive smoke by adjusting my pump once I install the POD's?

Thanks for the input!

 

I don't like POD's for towing. The timing needed to make them run well is really a little extreme for a hard working truck.

 

what year is your motor,if it was 89-911/2 non intercooled youve got good injectors already,4X.0012. bigger than stock intercooled injectors. if you have a factory intercooled motor pods spray angle wont match the piston bowl,I toww with pods in a non i/c but i got em dirt cheap, they were good for a little more power over stock. with more places offering 1st gen injectors look to something besides pods.

 

My motor is a Non IC motor. Possibly may have been a bus motor at one time because the the turbo is sitting on the top of the manifold. It was a New Cummins Raman in 2000. and now has just over 22K miles on it. I have never even come close to hot EGT's with my setup yet so I feel that I should have plenty of room to play with for bigger sticks.

I own a set of 6X014's (not in the truck now) but they were too big for what I wanted to do with the truck, so I am looking to downsize.

Hey Crew, Got any pics of that 1978? Sounds like a sweet setup, I always liked that body style!

I guess I would not consider my truck a "Hard Working" Truck. It will work hard but I don't "need" it to very often.

 

looking at the your pictures of the engine you have i would say the injectors you have a big enough for more power, since in the pictures it looks like a non intercooled engine. and the non intercooled had larger injectors

 

Leave the injectors. They're good for up to 350 RWHP (horsepower)

Possibly more. They're huge for stock injectors, substantaily bigger then 91.5-93 intercooler injectors.

 

Who knows what the sticks are. Heavy equipment and big trucks with the 6 b had all kinds of power ratings. I worked on a street sweeper with 105 horses. You never know. I have seen rotary pumped boat engines at 210 hp. They are all over the place.

 

i looked at your pics, wow! great job nice attention to detail. do you know what your current injectors are? is that a stock h1c turbo? my motor was a 90 out of a dodge. i found a set of $200 pods,we have 2 1st gens and 2 1st gen powered fords so i thought i would have a use for them. pods are 4x.0014non i/c,s 4x.0012 so alittle more flow.i tested both sets in truck in my sig,same day. not on dyno just driving,boost, egt readings. pods added about 4 lbs boost,felt stronger.especially seemed to have more torque. i tested them in intercooled truck,huge power difference over ***** stock injectors, but smokey. i thought it was becouse of the hx35, big intercooler,port work intake etc on my old ford.i had heard about spray angle differences but it wasnt till ii pulled heads that i saw the difference in piston bowl shape. in my experience pods dont smoke in non intercooled motors as bad,i tested in several different trucks.the pod injector tip is also different so it contributes to some haze.pods high higher pop pressure,good for atomization,maybe hard on ve pump.260vs 245 bar,maybe could wear out pump quiker.anyone know for sure? anyway this retards timing,so you can push pump further to head, but actual timing is not as far advanced is it may seem. you can make pods work well with the right set-up and tow or hot rod if you want. not my first choice for injectors however unless ther cheap. i wuold like a 5x.0014 [435s] myself. sorry its long,i cant really type. this took me 20 minutes!any way i,ll post pics of my old ford soon i hope. also if your turbos stock look to upgrade.

 

Hey Guys, Thanks for all of the responses and input.

I guess the first thing I need to find out is what is sticks are actually in my Motor, cause I really don't know. I do know that I am happy with the power but would like a little more.

I just had a chance to trade my 06X014 for a new set of POD,s however they were for a IC motor so the swap didn't work. So at this point I will probably sell the 06X014's, do some research and see what sticks are in the truck and buy some better suited for my application at a later date.

Hey Crew, Thanks for the comments on the truck!

On my turbo it has a larger housing and wheel on the intake side, exhaust side is stock. My timing is already bumped pretty good, so I assume I could drop in some POD's, and not have to mess with the timing. I really don't like the possibility of haze at idle, I don't like sitting at a stop light and smoking other people out. I like some smoke when I get on it hard, but I want it to clear up once the turbo catches up. Rolling a ton of smoke just messed up my rear wheels thanks to the Side Pipe's
Thanks for taking the 20 minutes to post!

According to the badge on the motor it is a 160HP motor. Would that give any indication on what injectors are in there?

 

you would just use adapters to put pods in, but i would go with your plan to sell your 6x14s, if they are too big and get what you really want. i would bet your current stix are 4x14.same as dodge non i/c. pull one and see if its 4 hole. what happened when you tried the 6x14s?

 

darrin,I got an idea,i see you run a denny t fuel pin,put those big injectors in and put in stock fuel pin,rotate it from shallow side to deep side to see how much fuel you want. i ground my own pin,i run it on the dyno,made 330hp,but 1400 + egt , 40+ lbs boost,more turbo lag on the road.i rotate fuel pin to unground side untill boost about 38,egts 1200. truck spools quiker and i drive without worry . dont give up on injectors yet!

 

i just installed PODs and i love them...im making 10-12 more boost just from them. I had my truck on the dyno this weekend and made 216/600 at the wheels and everyone said the dyno was reading low. I can tell a big differance driving and my EGTs only went up 200*

 

nice job I havent heard of too many people dissappointed with the power pods make for the money.i stated in above post stock non i/c stix at 4x14,thats pod size,meant to say 4x12.

 

Darrin, do you have a stick or an automatic tranny? If you have a stock auto, you're already on the ragged edge of what it can handle, especially towing.

Mike

 

Intercooled injectors can go in a non intercooled engine with little adapters that come with the injectors.

factory non intercooled injectors just CAN'T go into intercooled heads.

They don't even make aftermarket 9mm non i/c injectors....... you get 7mm's and use the adapters provided