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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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I'm with RonA, IMO it would be a P-Pumped 1st gen.
The VIN, and other corresponding number ID, would be for a diesel Dodge from 1989-1993 in order to quantify it as a 1st gen.

All else is just arguing for no real gain.

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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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I consider this body style 72-93 a first gen ram regardless of engine. Some day I would like to have a 24v P-pump, 6 speed, Dana 80 out back and a coil sprung 60 up front all rapped in a first gen. I wouldn't necessarily count that out as a first gen just a highly modded one. It's the body not the engine they came with gas motors too.
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by deanhinsley1963
I always thought 1stgen referred to the body style not the engine. In my opinion ppump no harm no foul. I dont run one but I dont need one. Mine will be and is a daily driver and 300 hp tops. But if I was shooting for anything over 350 hp I would do it in a minute.
Why over 350hp? A good 12mm ve pump is good for 450hp without too much work. A VE pump at the same hp level will eat a pee-pump on the street. Maybe not high up in the rpms, but down low all day long.

I have done many a many tests on this exact issue.

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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 01:31 AM
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Couldn't agree more 300rwhp is dead easy with a VE, but 400-450 isn't that much harder with a good turbo and big injectors. You're going to spend just as much on a p-pump swap as you are on the parts for the 450rwhp VE.

And a street truck at 450rwhp is no joke!
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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Is a Camaro not a Camaro anymore if you swap a Holley on?



1stgens to me are 89-93 Cummins powered Dodges. The Cummins is the reason for the Generation designation.
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pulltilbroke
Is a Camaro not a Camaro anymore if you swap a Holley on?
No. It's a Camolley.
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