Ve Pump Rebuild
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Ve Pump Rebuild
Finally had to rebuild my pump and it wasn't so bad after all.
I have had a couple of leaks here and there that would come and go so i bought a kit around the first of the year.
Just never got around to tear it down.
Did not have a choice , Tuesday morning it sprung a major leak and left me stranded on the side of the road.
Kit was cheap.
69 dollars and 8 hours later had it running.
250 dollars to tow me 6 miles from a tow service i have used in the past , outragious !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Once i got it off i found that the back cover opposite the ksb valve had snapped one of the cap screws off and thats where my major leak was.
I tore it down and replaced all of the orings and gaskets.
Had this same thing happen about 7 yrs ago.
Had it towed to a local deisel shop for repairs.
150 dollars for towing ,350 dollars for repairs.
Cap screw on this same cover had come loose and blew the oring out.
8 hours shop time and between 1 to 3 mechanics working on it.
First mechanic working on it and mind you i am helping , ran around the shop for almost an hour trying to find something to turn the engine over to get it on tdc.
They did not have a barring tool or a wrench to fit on the fan nut.
He jacked up the rear end to rock it and no luck.
That is when i reminded him that it was not a possi and he would have to leave one set of wheels on the ground.
I rocked the wheels and he finally got it on tdc.
This started at 12 noon and he finally had the pump off at 4:30 pm.
Gee it only took me 2 hrs to do the same at home.
I left and came back at 8 the next morning.
He was just coming out with the new oring and was starting to put it on when i asked him if he was going to locktite the cap screws.
He had not planned on it and i reminded him that i did not want this happening again.
4 hrs latter , 3 mechanics , ran my battery down 4 times trying to bleed injectors , they finally had it running.
I was wondering if i was ever going to get my truck back.
My at home shop time:
2 hrs to remove pump
4 hrs to clean ,tear down, run back and forth to the computer to check pictures, answer phone, run to town for new cap screws and re-assemble pump.
2 hours to re-install and roughly 15 minutes to bleed system and bingo , truck is running.
With the way prices have been going up i figure i roughly saved myself about 600 dollars doing it myself this time and there was only one of me.
I know because i have had to raise my prices also.
The 48 dollars an hour i charge verses 75 to 90 they charge is a no brainer, and i think i can afford to stay home and do it myself.
I have always made it a point to have the right tools to do the job or don't do it at all.
Funny how some proffesional shops don't see it that way.
I am an electrical contractor by trade , former : mechanic , welder , machinist , you name it.
This is my first deisel and i try to do all of my own repairs.
I was a little leary about messing with the pump though , but after i got into it , it wasn't all that bad.
Thanks for all of the posts and tech links.
Without them i don't think i would have tackled this myself.
By the way the truck is a :
91 d350 dually , non intercooled ,5 spd with 4:11 gears , full utility body, 34 foot arial bucket with out riggers.
With all my stuff it usually weighs in around 7 tons.
Has about 390,000 on it and gets around 15 to the gallon with all the power i need.
Sorry for the long post but i thought i would let you all know my experience with a local shop and that most of the time you are better off doing it yourself.
Tim Schuldies/Tim's Electric
I have had a couple of leaks here and there that would come and go so i bought a kit around the first of the year.
Just never got around to tear it down.
Did not have a choice , Tuesday morning it sprung a major leak and left me stranded on the side of the road.
Kit was cheap.
69 dollars and 8 hours later had it running.
250 dollars to tow me 6 miles from a tow service i have used in the past , outragious !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Once i got it off i found that the back cover opposite the ksb valve had snapped one of the cap screws off and thats where my major leak was.
I tore it down and replaced all of the orings and gaskets.
Had this same thing happen about 7 yrs ago.
Had it towed to a local deisel shop for repairs.
150 dollars for towing ,350 dollars for repairs.
Cap screw on this same cover had come loose and blew the oring out.
8 hours shop time and between 1 to 3 mechanics working on it.
First mechanic working on it and mind you i am helping , ran around the shop for almost an hour trying to find something to turn the engine over to get it on tdc.
They did not have a barring tool or a wrench to fit on the fan nut.
He jacked up the rear end to rock it and no luck.
That is when i reminded him that it was not a possi and he would have to leave one set of wheels on the ground.
I rocked the wheels and he finally got it on tdc.
This started at 12 noon and he finally had the pump off at 4:30 pm.
Gee it only took me 2 hrs to do the same at home.
I left and came back at 8 the next morning.
He was just coming out with the new oring and was starting to put it on when i asked him if he was going to locktite the cap screws.
He had not planned on it and i reminded him that i did not want this happening again.
4 hrs latter , 3 mechanics , ran my battery down 4 times trying to bleed injectors , they finally had it running.
I was wondering if i was ever going to get my truck back.
My at home shop time:
2 hrs to remove pump
4 hrs to clean ,tear down, run back and forth to the computer to check pictures, answer phone, run to town for new cap screws and re-assemble pump.
2 hours to re-install and roughly 15 minutes to bleed system and bingo , truck is running.
With the way prices have been going up i figure i roughly saved myself about 600 dollars doing it myself this time and there was only one of me.
I know because i have had to raise my prices also.
The 48 dollars an hour i charge verses 75 to 90 they charge is a no brainer, and i think i can afford to stay home and do it myself.
I have always made it a point to have the right tools to do the job or don't do it at all.
Funny how some proffesional shops don't see it that way.
I am an electrical contractor by trade , former : mechanic , welder , machinist , you name it.
This is my first deisel and i try to do all of my own repairs.
I was a little leary about messing with the pump though , but after i got into it , it wasn't all that bad.
Thanks for all of the posts and tech links.
Without them i don't think i would have tackled this myself.
By the way the truck is a :
91 d350 dually , non intercooled ,5 spd with 4:11 gears , full utility body, 34 foot arial bucket with out riggers.
With all my stuff it usually weighs in around 7 tons.
Has about 390,000 on it and gets around 15 to the gallon with all the power i need.
Sorry for the long post but i thought i would let you all know my experience with a local shop and that most of the time you are better off doing it yourself.
Tim Schuldies/Tim's Electric
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Even supposedlly diesel shop sometimes have edit working for them, with little or no training. The unfortunate part is you pay for their education.
Good job on your part. We see this story so many times.
Good job on your part. We see this story so many times.
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