tire rotation
Hi there, This is my first post as I am new to the world of the CTD. I worked in a tire shop for a couple of years, and if I recall for a dually, it was inside tire to the front, outside tire to the inside, and the front tire to the outside rear. 90% sure of this. When we did rotations, we did / recommended them every 6,000 miles, and usually just front to back. If they where really bad, we cris-crossed them. Hope this helps.
Honestly, I wouldn't waste my time/effort.
I know many will argue my reasoning, but I have far better results by just putting the tires where I want them and running them in that spot until they are replaced.
I won't even rotate them at the times when I might have all the wheels off the truck for some other reason.
A tire will wear itself into the characteristics of the position that it is first mounted on.
Relocating that tire to a new position will then bring on a host of driving and ride quality issues, while the tire re-wears itself to the characteristics of the new position.
Many is the happy-with-their-tires customer that has later been not quite so happy once they rotate the tires; strange vibrations show up that hadn't been there before and often a tendency to wander with the imperfections of the road will begin, all because that tire has worn to be at a particular position.
Also, I don't care what the ads state to the contrary, in my own experiences, once installed and ran, radial tires should, from that day forward, always travel in the same direction of rotation.
Changing that direction will often later lead to tread seperations and broken belts.
That's just my two cents worth.
I don't do it until I see any abnormal wear. Since I like my white walls out, I am limited to swapping fronts and inners. That should be fine though, since the rears usually wear more even no matter what.
I have always found (at least on the rutted roads around here) that I need to swap my inner and outer duals or the inners wear out faster.
I do that about every 8 - 10k.
Steer tires stay where I put them.
I run highway tread steers and traction drives so there is no swapping front to rear.
I do that about every 8 - 10k.
Steer tires stay where I put them.
I run highway tread steers and traction drives so there is no swapping front to rear.
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Because my chariot is 4WD, I run traction tires on all four corners. And for better or worse, my tire dealer does a crisscross rotation so my tires are swapping sides and therefore changing direction of rotation.
Does anyone have an opinion regarding incorporating the spare into my regular 6,000 mile rotation cycle (i.e., a 5-tire rotation). It would give me more miles between new tire purchases and it would ensure that the spare gets checked regularly.
Thanks,
But, buying tires always hurts a bit, no matter how much money you have! I'd rather buy 6 than buy 7 when the time comes, and checking the spare is a seasonal thing, at worst! JMO
I would put the spare on the truck at each purchase and use a new tire for the spare.... to prevent age failure. http://www.abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897
Really your choice, I'd say!
RJ
The tire industry recommendations for rotating tires have diagrams for every wheel configuration imaginable, both INCLUDING the spare in the process, or not.
I NEVER rotate the tires on any of my fleet, as I often see it bring on more grief than cure.
That being said, the rotation patterns should be posted on the "web" in most of the tire industry sites, plus in your owner's manual.
I even see decals on vehicles in various places, such as under the trunk-lid, on the spare-tire-well cover, or on the radiator support under the hood, that show diagrams for rotation, either using the spare and not.
On my goose-necks, my practice for many many years has been to keep several brand-new spares on/in each trailer, date-marked, and "rotate" them onto the trailer as the ones on the ground fail.
I then mount another NEW tire onto the failed tire's wheel, date it, and carry it for a spare.
This way, I always have plenty of good NEW spares that I can call on, and also get every crumb of life out of the ones on the ground.
I have learned the hard way on my dually to leave the backs alone. they wear flat, even and stay balanced. the fronts if needed are dismounted and swapped so they stay in the forward running direction. when they swapped the left rear to front then fronts to back then do the right rears to front fronts to rear I got lost and confused
and boy did some of them never balance right again. I do run good gas shocks, and keep it aligned as best I can. watch the air, I dont go max it wears out centers, but about 10% of it depending on load.
and boy did some of them never balance right again. I do run good gas shocks, and keep it aligned as best I can. watch the air, I dont go max it wears out centers, but about 10% of it depending on load.
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