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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 10:30 PM
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nv4500 vss wiring help

I figured I would throw this out to all you gurus before I started throwing parts at it. I just finished up my NV 4500 swap in my 93 and I'm down to wiring of the VSS. the transmission is from a 2002 Duramax but it was in a 95 Chevrolet with a 96 ppumped Cummins motor. it has the upgraded larger billet input shaft and fully splined main And the clutch is a south bend dual disc 3600. I read that after a certain year they moved the VSS to the rear axle but this transmission has a plugin in the tail housing. I'm wondering if I get the pigtail from Napa and plug it in and wired up if my speedometer will work or if I will have to get some kind of adapter from Dakota digital. any help would be greatly appreciated and thank you in advance. Here's a pic of the plug in the tail housing. nv4500 vss wiring help-20150413_195634.jpg
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 10:42 PM
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This is on your 2wd D350? Could you post up a couple more pics, a bit farther back, and at a angle as well.
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 10:51 PM
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Yes it is. I only have one other picture at the moment but it will only let add a link since i already attached the picture to another thread you had. https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...412_094337.jpg
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 05:10 PM
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Never looked at a check nv4500 tails haft, so I assume that is what I am seeing. I would be interested to see what the assembly looks like removed. If it runs off a gear, or ???
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 07:39 PM
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Yes it is a chevy tail shaft. I have no clue as to the inner workings of the tail. Hoping someone here would know.
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 07:54 PM
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Looks like it's fully electronic. Kind of like a crank position sensor and picks up a notch in a gear if i had to guess. Here's a picture of the sensor that plus in the tail shaft. nv4500 vss wiring help-%24_12.jpg. is there any way to convert the signal this sensor is sending to something my speedometer and odometer can read
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 10:50 PM
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If they updated it with an updated Cummins NV4500 main shaft then it might not have the proper set-up on the shaft to even generate a signal? I would want to pull it out and see what's going on inside first.
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 11:12 PM
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Well i just had the transmission gone through before i installed it, and it's in the truck already so I'm really not a fan of pulling it out again. i know i should have had the shop look at it first but it's too late now
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 12:52 AM
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All you need to do is pop out the current VSS sensor and take a look inside...and a couple pics, of what is inside. Don't need to pull the tranny to do that.
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 07:09 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 09:46 PM
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Not sure where, or how the GM VSS gets it's signal. I have been looking at pics of GM and Dodge mainshafts, I can't see how the VSS works on the GM units.
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 10:20 PM
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It looks as though there is a magnet on the sensor i took out and a tooth missing from the gear it reads off of inside the tail housing. I hooked it up just for kicks and barley moved the truck and it said i was going 45mph. I'm just curious if this Dakota digital thing will adjust the signal.http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=126/category_id=287/mode=prod/prd126.htm. thank you again for all your input so far thrashingcows. I appreciate it
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 10:21 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 10:23 PM
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Well the dang link isn't working. Sorry
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 11:18 PM
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Could you not just swap on a tailhousing from a 2wd NV4500? They did use a dodge cummins main shaft? So it should go on with no issue then.

The early 94-96-ish units still had a VSS running off the tailshaft. I had one on my 95 2wd NV4500 in my crewcab. Then you can use all factory arts to get your speedo working properly.
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