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Old 12-28-2005, 05:37 AM
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Question Newbie to Death Wobble

I have been reading many threads out there, and am still confused about death wobble. I own a 93 power ram 250, Ext cab, very stock truck, and am finding what I would call death wobble happening at low speeds (<20mph), crossing over the littlest of bumps. The front end visibly rises and falls, thank goodness this happens at low speeds. Tires are 235/85/16, inflated to vehicle spec, only steering problem is leak at pump end. At higher speeds(55-60mph) no woes. Any ideas? Thanks all,
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Best explaination I ve read so far.......

Originally Posted by djgaston
Like I said earlier, and maybe you guys missed this, but death wobble can happen to anybody... stock trucks, lifted trucks, whatever. The lifted trucks are more prone to display it because of the angle on the track bar and the fact that it has more vertical load than normal. Dodge tried to upgrade the track bar in 03 by using one that has rubber bushings at each end, but it still sucks. I'm on my 2nd one at 38,000 miles. The first one was gone with no lift and 31 inch tires. When you have movement in your steering like that (track bar is part of your steering), you are going to see exxagerated wear... once it starts getting play, it just gets worse and worse. Some people can use the same track bar for years before they get any movement, others replace them annually. What I'm saying is that it is not necessary to consider a track bar a "maintenance" item anymore. You can fix it once and have literally no problems for the life of your truck.

Also, stock trucks can have a worn out track bar and not even know it sometimes. It might only be noticeable in irregular tire wear up front, poor alignment or not holding alignment, and exxagerated body roll in certain conditions. The reason it doesn't show up immediately as death wobble is because the track bar is basically holding a horizontal load only. Even if the ends are worn out, it is still going to pretty much hold the axle in place under normal driving conditions because there is enough tension to keep the axle in place enough that you don't feel it moving. Lifted trucks, like I said earlier, have more of a vertical load... even with a drop bracket, you are still putting a vertical leverage on the bar itself and therefore it has to hold both horizontal and vertical loads. It's kind of hard to explain but lifted trucks do exxagerate the movement and are tougher on all steering components. Stock parts aren't made for those conditions. That is why when you lift a truck, you upgrade... don't just reuse stock parts and consider it safe. It's not. You need stronger parts because your truck is requiring them in order to be as reliable as a stock truck, or even more reliable.

You can have death wobble in vehicles without a track bar, as I have in my offroad Jeep. If I get going above 30 mph, it shakes so bad that I can't control it. I have hydro assist steering but the tie rod ends on the tie rod are extremely worn out and allow the wheels/knuckles to move back and forth a little. That little bit of movement feels like the whole earth is shaking underneath you. Death wobble is always caused by steering failures, and that could be the tie rod/tie rod ends, ball joints, or track bar if applicable. In Dodge trucks, 95% of the time, it's going to be the track bar. You can count on that.
there is also a post somewhere I couldnt find that talks about the upper ball joint and some problems with it that can cause this issue
Search the forums under ''death wobble" and you'll probably come across it.
There is a "kit" you can order to correct this, but you'd have to "search" and find the info, I dont remember..
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Welcome to DTR. Reading your post has brought up some questions. Is your truck 2 or 4 wheel drive. I am not real familiar with the 2wd front ends but I have been under the front of my W350 a lot lately. These are a very simple straight axle leaf spring front end without a track bar. I would be willing to bet that you may need new shocks.
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Cool death wobble in Nova Scotia...

I have a 4X4 set-up, changed the rear shocks about 5 months ago, front shocks are of an age unknown... Seems like a pretty straight forward front end, straight axle, shocks and leafs, seems like a lot of people have problems with the track-bar set-up(post 93?), right hand shock is starting to look very corroded, although no evidence of fluid leakeage, thanks all
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:42 AM
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