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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 08:02 AM
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Need more air

Currently have the BHAF under the fender. Is there anything that would allow more air to get to the turbo? My brother thought about getting a fan (located before turbo) to force air into the turbo but doesn't know the CFM that the PDR HX35 produces or sucks from the air cleaner. That would make it a Forced Air Induction, I like that thought but knowing numbers up front would help. Does anyone make anything for our 1st gens to produce great amounts of air. I think it would help a little with the Black Smoke I now create, love the power but more air would produce MORE POWER.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 08:58 AM
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Re:Need more air

a 50 or 75hp shot of nitrous would clean it up alot
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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Re:Need more air

Would that be the same setup of NOS as you get for cars? Do they have complete installs for our trucks or do you modify what someone would have for a car. Summit Racing, any place else that have these? What is a typical price of NOS.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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Re:Need more air

I would think $200-300 would buy a setup for a diesel. Things are more expensive on a gas car cuz you have to add fuel too. In your case tho, you've already got too much fuel, u just want to get the air. I would assume there are some nitrous kits for the cummins, maybe try asking in the high performance forum?
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 10:58 AM
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Re:Need more air

If you guys want to go NOS you better have the fuel for it.<br><br>You have to have some serious injection to allow you the leeway to use NOS. If you add NOS to a pretty lean fuel/air mixture you will get EGT's out of this world..LOL...<br><br>AS for more air, the fan idea would probably cost you more in HP to run the fan than the gain to the turbo.. The turbocharger is a pretty efficient machine and if you have reduced your intake restriction down to -2 or so inches of watercolumn, you have done enough.. The turbos are designed for some suction on the inlet or negative head but adding about 1&quot; watercolumn with a fan is not really that helpful. IMHO<br><br>J-eh
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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Re:Need more air

The type of fan he was thinking of was an electric fan run by a switch. He works at Radio Shack so he could check the amount of CFM's to see what they flow. I agree with you though as I mentioned to him that I really doubt nobody has thought of this before so it probably wouldn't work. His thought was if the Turbo sucks ### of CFM from the filter, why not place a fan in between the filter and turbo as long as it remains the same CFM for the turbo when fan is off, but then hit the switch to start the fan and have it suck more CFM from the filter and push that to the turbo. It sounds simple but I know it isn't. <br><br>NOS needs fuel? LOL. I think I am heavily fueled as I get a lot of black smoke upon throttle up. Even at idle I see a haze out the back with those POD's and having Nascar Mark's old motor. He set it up for full kill when I purchased it. Not complaining, just trying it even it out and wondered my options. One thought would be to increase fuel line size from the tank. I still have stock lines. That would increase even more fuel getting to it. I don't have a FP gauge yet so I don't know what my numbers are, what should they be for FP?
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 02:17 PM
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Re:Need more air

sounds like u could run some nitrous and really pick the truck up a bit. All that black smoke is just a waste. the nitrous will bring your egt's down as well
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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Re:Need more air

I don't see me investing any more $$ at this time due to my Italian disease (myfundsarelow) LOL. Just mostly wondering. My egt's are not that bad since I have turned the power back a little. At WOT now, I can still get it into the 1300 zone but it reminds me to back off a little and it will cook right down. truck just picks up speed so fast now ;D Before, I could bury my gauge without a problem, climb right to 1500 without a problem. Now, it takes it a little longer to get up to 1300, I feel much safer now. I will say that the PDR cam does keep it cooler then stock cam. Cruising at 80, 2200 - 2300 rpm, runs right around the 700 - 800 mark, depending if going up any hill or on flat ground. Still has plenty of punch though to bring me up to 100 real quick. Pier and Mark know what they are doing with these motors ;D ;D
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