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Need to know needs to make 450 hp

Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by huntinguy
Around here P-pumping is as bad as the bottle.
i agree w/ that, but this guy doesn't care
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 01:39 AM
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I'm hoping to hit 450 on fuel and my mods aren't that extensive...the 14mm head is the only real trick.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by krusty 2
You know how new mothers have breast pumps......well....
Well I think I would like to be a P-Pump then.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 11:44 PM
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From another sites 94-98 12V FAQ:

There are countless ways to get set up, and here are a couple of suggestions:

For 450HP that tows and daily drives some:
5x.012 injectors
Modified fuel plate
62/65/12 or 14 turbo
Governor spring kit (3 or 4K)
60# valve springs are a good idea
AFC tuning!
Is it really that simple?
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 12:36 AM
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Yup...but you're evil.
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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So I was wondering something... assume for a moment the amount of fuel injected is the same for a ve and a p-pump. Will the p-pump engine make more power because of the much higher injection pressure?
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 09:50 AM
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Don't forget horsepower is a formula where RPM is a factor. P-pumps obviously keep moving lots of fuel as RPM increase. A lot of p-pumps make peak horsepower where a typical VE wouldn't be making much power at all.
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Head
So I was wondering something... assume for a moment the amount of fuel injected is the same for a ve and a p-pump. Will the p-pump engine make more power because of the much higher injection pressure?
With a higher pressure, the fuel will atomize better. As fuel burns from the outside in, the smaller the droplet the faster it will burn. So, theoretically, the less fuel you can push through the injectors in order to get the same power.
So yes, if you were to push the same amount of fuel through each pump, and if the injector orifii, (?) were the same size, the P-pump should make more power as the fuel will burn more efficiently.
But, as JBradley pointed out, power is more closely related to rpm's than injector pressures. In saying that, it's ALL related isn't it?!
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JQmile
Yup...but you're evil.
I'm wondering why John's evil...?

In 6 more posts you'll be the evil one!
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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That post I quoted must be for a manual transmission truck.
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