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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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Hey everybody!

Hey, my name is Chris Parker. As you can see in my sig, I own a '93, and I have done some mild performance upgrades.

I've been a member of the TDR for a year or so, and the NWB for a couple months.

I consider myself to be pretty knowledgeable with this stuff, although like everyone, I have a lot to learn. I hope I can be a valuable addition to this website.

I just wanted to say hi! ;D

(click on the attachment to check out my truck, and please visit my webpage by clicking the little globe to the left!)
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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Re:Hey everybody!

Welcome to DTR! Nice looking truck!
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 10:23 PM
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Naperville? I was born and raised in Downtown Chicago.

Big change comming to Idaho!!! ;D
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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Re:Hey everybody!

Oh, and I looked at your sig. I wouldn't go for another intercooler, that won't do much for you.

I would suggest going for a hybrid turbo and doing some porting. That will lower your EGTs by quite a bit. A more agressive cam will help too.

Getting a PDR HX-35 will increase your airflow and spool faster than stock. Just if you port the exhaust manifold that will lower you temps around 50-60*. A cam will allow the exhaust gasses to evacuate the cylinders faster and cool off temps.

Do you have an aftermarket intake? I would suggest going for an aFe to improve airflow. I'm going to assume you don't have a muffler! ;D

Once you get the basics done, and get big injectors, EGTs are the limiting factor from there on out, so all the mods from now on for you will probably be airflow devices so you can add more fuel. IF you want to, of course.

Sorry if you already know all that!
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:01 PM
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Re:Hey everybody!

If you looked at his sig you would see he has an 89, so he has no intercooler. The 89 to first half of 91 trucks are not intercooled from the factory.
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:02 PM
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Re:Hey everybody!

BTW: I would suggest pressure testing your intercooler, this is what Bob Coe recommends to pressure test it:

"The tools you need are basically a piece of rubber tubing the diameter of the turbo air inlet; a cap or plug for the opposite end with an air fitting/gauge attached; two large hose or rad clamps; a bottle of soapy water; some time and patience.....that's it.

A word of advice... you only need to pressurize the IC to about 20psi. It's enough pressure to disclose most leaks and is not so much that the tube w/cap will shoot off and damage the back of the alternator.... or you fingers.... ask Piers... his finger is STILL black..

Check all the IC boots/clamps/connections. Go over the airhorn on the intake manifold.... listen closely to the front of the intercooler and use soap spray as needed.
Watch the pressure gauge to see if you have any gross/major pressure drops"

I haven't done it myself, but I will soon.

Hope that helps!
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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Did you come here to say HI, or look down your nose : :, Read the SIG, that would be the little bitty writing at the bottom of his post. But I will say HOWDY, we got lots of turnip greens, butter beans, and a ham in the oven if you're hungry, but keep ya grubby paws off MY Banana Puddin, IT'S MINE and MINE ONLY
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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Re:Hey everybody!

Sorry, missed the 89 part... sorry guys.

I just felt like typing a lot, so I just kept going! I hope you guys aren't mad, I was just trying to be helpfull.

Besides, somebody else might be able to use the info!

I mean no harm...
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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Re:Hey everybody!

And if that's the case, an intercooler would help a lot. ;D

I would just look for a stock one from an intercooled truck, not sure of the options, but the banks intercooler is a waist of time according to a lot of people that know way more than me.

I'm harmless, really...
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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Re:Hey everybody!

Welcome CB..

I made the switch rather than doing both boards some time ago...

You will find alot of the "big names" from the TDR visiting here.

Check out our tech facts area for more information... ;D


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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 10:41 PM
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Hey, no worries there CB. And while I have heard of all the options you explained, I just dont have the cash at this moment in my life to be throwing around. Im about the happiest guy ever just being able to drive the near nicest looking and torquiest truck at school. And when teachers and students ask, I love replying "yeah, thats my truck " when they ask about the stacks! I am planning on a HX-35 eventually, some kind of intercooler, and a cam. I have also toyed with the idea of the 3 piece ATS manifold. How would I go about porting the stock one, and is the ATS even worth it? The problem that I think im gonna have is, once I am ready to add more fuel, I dont know if my pump is gonna be able to deliver it. The fuel screw is in far enough that its just below runaway right now. But I have alot of time to figure all that out....
Brian
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 10:57 PM
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Re:Hey everybody!

I would have someone take a look at your pump. Maybe your adjustments are off... the ve pump is more than capable of supplying enough fuel to run 400hp without much internal internal modification.

I would definately suggest checking out the BOMBing schedule we made over on the TDR in the first gen forum, it is very usefull.

I'm in the same boat, I plan on getting a cam, manifold, fuel pin, governer, and injectors VERY SOON.

The ATS is a great manifold. When you port it, it flows like mad!

If I were you, the next thing I would do is the intercooler.

As for porting the manifold, you want to bevel the edge going into the turbo, and take away the metal as far back as you can, lining up with the insides of the gasket marks. I wouldn't suggest doing it by yourself if you have never done anything like it before.

You can do the same thing to the turbo inlet, and taking the machining marks out of the exhaust housing will help too.

When you don't have an intercooler, free mods like porting can really help to decrease EGTs. The cam and manifold will do that too. A new turbo will flow more and do even more help.

Unfortunately, after the basics, every single other thing you will want is about $500 a piece. It get's pricey.

Like I said man, once you get the injectors and pump going, you will be fighting EGTs from then on to get more power. All the little things can really add up.

Hope that helps.
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 11:08 PM
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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Do stacks run cooler than the stock position with same sized pipes, with less distance to travel? I want stacks in mine, right now it has stock sized exhaust straight piped to the back?
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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Hey CB dont I know you from somewhere else. Oh yeah over on the TDR are you still going to the first gen party at Piers. How are the new injectors working out and did you get that pump built yet?

Stomp
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