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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 02:01 AM
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I broke an upper control arm in a parking lot, bumped into one of little cement things at full lock and "pop". I replaced the '89 control arm with one from Loco1's 1992 he gave me. and he guess what - the place where mine broke? His had a factory doubler right there, !! Well at least they learned.

Nevertheless I drive the truck like it has dry pasta for metal.
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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update with pics

so i took the suspension off (which was actually quite easy) and removed the lower control arm bracket.

with the control arm mount removed:





After about 5 minutes of judicious hammering with a 3lb sledge and a good wire wheeling:








and here is something to clear your mind of this unspeakable atrocity so you can sleep easily at night:



on the bright side, i noticed that the X member is removable. if i can locate a junkyard piece i will definitely consider replacing it completely. I've already called dodge and it is discontinued
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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Wow!! Thats bad.
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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That was really bad! It doesn't appear to have been caused by rust, it just split wide open. I gotta crawl under mine and look for cracks tomorrow...
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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Honestly how hard did you really slide off the curb anyway. That is some major carnage! Check out this video of these guys off roading a 1989 dodge d350 diesel dually... Maybe yours was put through the same treatment X ∞ at some point in it's life, compromising the structure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moc2u58Vv_0
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Maybe his truck was one they dropped from the roof in the commercials.
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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rofl I remember those commercials, but only of the 1994 2nd gen. They went on and on about it saying things like "This truck has a frame SO STRONG that we had to patent it."
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PapeCAT
Honestly how hard did you really slide off the curb anyway. That is some major carnage! Check out this video of these guys off roading a 1989 dodge d350 diesel dually... Maybe yours was put through the same treatment X ∞ at some point in it's life, compromising the structure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moc2u58Vv_0
ROFL at that video! those dodge guys are crazy! i shutter to think of what it would be like to catch air in my W250. maybe they were springier when new, but if my front end left the ground completely it would come down in a seriously hard way.

i actually didn't even slide off a curb, i drove up a driveway in reverse. the damage was done long before...

i'm pretty sure that it was the bad ball joint that did her in, as stated previously.

it was my fault, i ignored a ball joint issue, it pulled on the lower control arm and started the carnage.
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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you could weld that up but i would deffinetly put a backing in there and dont use 6010 it is not a piece of pipe solid wire and 7018 are about same strength
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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Its hard to tell by the pictures but maybe the bolts were loose. Kinda looks like the holes are oblonged and then split due to movement. It still looks like that should only happen in a crash. Good thing you were not flying down the road.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Richie O
Its hard to tell by the pictures but maybe the bolts were loose. Kinda looks like the holes are oblonged and then split due to movement. It still looks like that should only happen in a crash. Good thing you were not flying down the road.
those were not bolts, but rivets.

Here are the pictures from 2006 when i had the bad ball joint. you can see that the hole in the control arm was hogged out toward the inside of the vehicle. as the upper pushed inward it naturally pulled the lower outward. this caused a seriously adverse load on the lower arm mount.

the moral of the story is: FIX YOUR BALL JOINTS EARLY!!











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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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O, rivets. Did it look like they were working around? Maybe you couldn't tell.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 12:58 AM
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O, rivets. Did it look like they were working around? Maybe you couldn't tell.
they were probably working around, it would certainly explain the oblong holes!
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 02:19 AM
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so my lower control arm bracket dun teared itself right off the cross member on the 89'. currently trying to determine the logistics of putting the truck in the garage. will post pics in a bit.

the truck is mad at you for trying to off her on cl

From looking at the pic, I don't see why you couldn't weld a new plate in place of the one that is torn off. It shouldn't require pulling the engine.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 02:40 AM
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with a fire wench & a welder you can fix any thing
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