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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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Getrag,,,new info,,,new question

I noticed today that the input shaft didnt rattle when on cold start. NOT until it gets warmed up good by driving around 20-30 miles does it really start rattling. I have only noticed it a few times cause I dont drive that far. Do you spose this tranny will run awhile that way IF I can find a way to 'overfill' it??? Will THAT help the rattle part??keep it down in the oil??OR just sound better and not really??? I was told I had a new pilot bushing when the new clutch and input shaft went in about 3 months ago and VERY few miles since!!

Other than that my mech-a-nic wants NOTHING to do with it any more,,,he has too much other more important things to think about and do!!(than mine). He says its silly and non productive to overfill a tranny!!!

Is their someplace one can easily overfill them?? thru a bolt hole etc??

Thanks or any info!!-don-
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Two-wheel-drive or four-wheel-drive??

Fill out your Sig so that we can read what we are talking about, and better be able to assist.

Have you checked the fluid level at the filler-plug??

What is in it now??

There are a host of creative ways to add/over-fill a Getrag.

Don't listen to the mechanic, as he probably hasn't had near the experience with Getrags that this board has.

Improvements from overfilling can be noticed as soon as the jack is let down.

Overfilling with FULL synthetic is even better.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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Hmmm, sounds like he may know something that he doesnt want to share with you...did he say that there was a new bushing put in or, did he say it appeared to be a new one on in...could he have skimped on putting one in??? Over-fill it through the shifter ->stat
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 02:18 AM
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heres some discussion on how bes tto add that extra oil:
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...verfill+getrag
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Thanks for the replies.

I read the links and all, sounds like I can do that!! Was wondering about the extra high nipple on the filler plug tho. IS this tranny vented AT ALL??? Reason I ask is it is real hard to get oil IN if the air cant get OUT!!! I have a 'squeeze' bottle that I use for 90 wt oil in some places(not here tho). Was wondering IF I put it in a squeeze bottle with a tip smaller than the pto bolt hole I could squeeze it right in. Can even use old soap bottles and squeeze it in, thats faster than a funnel for sure, especially in winter months. Other way would be to buy a small sprayer for this kind of oil, pump up the air and 'blow' it in. One guy used old pop syrup canisters from pop machines,bulk, like burger king etc has., had one for each kind of oil and grease,,,limited how much air pressure applied and used that to fill hard to reach and unhandy gear boxes etc.
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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If you have a squeeze bottle with the hose for filling, put the oil in that. In fact, since you dont know the history (it was suggested the mechanic may have skimped- who knows what is in there), CHANGE IT. Buy 5qts of 5w30, 10w40, whatever, and remove the upper PTO bolt on the driver's side. Use your squeezie bottle and put it in there. If your hose/ bottle wont work, remove the shifter and fill through the top. (dont forget to reinstall your PTo bolt, though.)

Daniel
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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The cap off a gear oil bottle will thread on a motor oil or ATF bottle.
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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Wink I Like To Check Things -- Once In A While

There is nothing wrong with the quick-fix methods of over-filling, everything from dumping through the shifter, pouring through a PTO bolt-hole, quickly squirting/forcing in that extra quart-and-a-half through the standard fill-plug, etc., etc.

The downfall is that there is no feasible, un-messy way to periodically check the fluid level.

You can loosen the fill-plug and see if oil seeps out; this tells you that the fluid is at least above the standard level; BUT, HOW MUCH ABOVE??

There is no good way of knowing, short of draining and measuring what pours out, then pouring it back in.

I would take a little extra time, and spend a few extra dollars, and install some sort of means of accurate fluid-level checking, either by a dip-stick or a sight-glass.

Currently, my Ford conversion has a street-ell, with a three-inch straight up nipple, and a cap with integrated dip-stick welded in the center of it.

The ultimate plan was to take this straight up portion on up through the floorboard and add a longer dip-stick and filler-cap inside the cab, negating the need to crawl under to check the level.

After looking at another set-up, at the Kentucky meet, I intend to alter my plans somewhat, and have the dip-stick and filler-tube located near the fire-wall, under the hood.

Like the man said, "you are more likely to check and change the fluid, when it is easy to do."
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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Its a 4 wheel drive--oops-- forgot to add that yesterday!!
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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Just put a street 90deg fitting on the regular fill hole and cap it back off . This way you can still just fill as normal and it is simple to check level because you just open the nipple and stick your finger in there the same way you used to. The 90deg fitting just allows the fluid level to come up another inch or two without spilling over.(should equal another quart or two)
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