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Old 02-25-2014, 03:36 PM
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First first gen.

http://www.fourwheeler.com/features/...cummins-dodge/
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It drives like a pig. A big, noisy, belching, diesel-guzzling pig.
Guzzle? They don't know the VE.
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First gear was done in literally a second, then Second gear came and went almost as quickly and there we were in Third gear with the torque of a freight train pushing us linearly up to and then through our self-imposed 60 mph top speed. It’s not a rocket ship.
It's not a rocket ship yet they ran it up over the speed they wanted that quick.
They need to go drive a few 454's and 460's then get back in it.
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Originally Posted by NE frmhnd
It's not a rocket ship yet they ran it up over the speed they wanted that quick.
They need to go drive a few 454's and 460's then get back in it.
This is going to sound strange coming from my keyboard:
If it weren't for mileage, and longevity, I would take a 454 over a Cummins, in a pick-up, any day.

Have owned a few Chevy's with 454's in them. They work hard, they play even harder. But, when worked, or played hard, you will see 100k miles tops, and 10mpg would be a blessing. I had a 77' chevy with a 454, np435, and 4.10's that would have towed circles around a first gen. it would also pass anything but a gas-station!

God I love my Cummins!!
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Thanks for sharing, great article. Anyone that is feeling sensitive to the criticism in the article (relative to 2014 MY trucks) is not being realistic. They nailed the 1st gen experience perfectly and the best part is they recognized the character of these rigs. Long live vehicles with a soul!
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I get a kick out of the little squeak from the accessory drive belt when the engine stops against it's awesome compression.
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Or the start up smoke screen which can be either amusing or embarrassing depending on the venue :-)
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Originally Posted by jbawden
Or the start up smoke screen which can be either amusing or embarrassing depending on the venue :-)
I love my idle haze, but people around me, especially to the right, don't care for it too much.
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Originally Posted by jbawden
Or the start up smoke screen which can be either amusing or embarrassing depending on the venue :-)
That's a characteristic of the IP setup. It pumps more fuel per stroke below 300 rpm, specifically to aid starting.
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That's a characteristic of the IP setup. It pumps more fuel per stroke below 300 rpm, specifically to aid starting.
That's why they usually start with a half turn of the crankshaft.
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Can someone explain what is up with what appears to be a coil of copper tubing on the rear diff. cover? I could, guess, but I don't know.

I also wonder how many of those parts were on the truck when it was a prototype, and how many were installed as part of the restoration. I doubt it had that shiny 4" downpipe, and I wonder about things like the crossover pipe with Dodge cast in it, the air cleaner housing on the fender, etc. Those look like production parts to me, not prototypes?

Thanks for posting the link! It was cool to see.
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Originally Posted by j_martin
I get a kick out of the little squeak from the accessory drive belt when the engine stops against it's awesome compression.
X2 I love that.
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Originally Posted by Alec
Can someone explain what is up with what appears to be a coil of copper tubing on the rear diff. cover? I could, guess, but I don't know.

I also wonder how many of those parts were on the truck when it was a prototype, and how many were installed as part of the restoration. I doubt it had that shiny 4" downpipe, and I wonder about things like the crossover pipe with Dodge cast in it, the air cleaner housing on the fender, etc. Those look like production parts to me, not prototypes?

Thanks for posting the link! It was cool to see.
They used that like a heat shield to keep the diff cool. My grandfathers old 70's dodge dump truck had that option. His was a 5/8's copper tube filled with oil. They crimped the ends of it but left a small opening. Little bit of flux and lead to seal it. You couldn't touch the copper tube after a long haul, but the diff/axle was warm to touch.
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after I pull 16k for an hour you can't lay your hand on my diff cover, I just change the fluid every 15k and call it good.
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Originally Posted by 1STGENFARMBOY
after I pull 16k for an hour you can't lay your hand on my diff cover, I just change the fluid every 15k and call it good.
I run AmZoil in mine. If it hasn't gotten hot enough to catch fire, the lube is good.


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