IIRC there was a company that was selling unbent injection lines. Thought some one on here got these and bent them up himself but for the life of me I can't remember who it was. Scheid makes there own lines, they could probably sell you some unbent ones. They would all be the same length and then you could bend them all up however you wanted. I am sure there is enough slack to get a stock length line to the second pump.

 

I get that you're talking about running the second pump off a pulley through the current oil fill hole in the timing case but I'm wondering how you're going to keep the oil from blowing out around the spacer? Have you found a seal that fits that hole?

 

would mild steel brake line work for injector lines? lol cause i have a bunch of small stuff.
that i havent figured out yet. if i ground all the corners of the inner nut i think i might have a crank seal for a snowmobile that might work. ill burn that bridge when i get there. right now i dont have a place to tear the truck apart. step dad wont let me use the garage plus my truck's too tall. my dad's has the 68 GTO in his, and my uncles shop is full with his trucks. might be out in the field tear down even tho i really dont wanna do that.

 

Running a belt from the crank seems simpler to me. Its up to you, but im currently running a Procharger off of the crank and fabing everything was a breeze.

 

procharger eh? id like to see some pics of that setup. the reason why im doing it from pump to pump is because i dont want a long belt that might jump timing. this way both pumps operate at the same speed.

 

You bringing that to S.O.P. this year ???

 

Josh your still runnin a VE i hope. are you gona have that thing done to bring to SDE in a couple a weeks??

Dar

 

Will the primary drive gear's bearings support belt tension?
cheers,
Douglas

---more I think about this, the more convinced I become that putting a mechanical advance onto a P7100 would be easier and deliver more power. Not to mention being sale-able in qty should you wish to recover some of your R&D.

 

The old vw's use a 1/2"-1" wide timing belt and turn more rpm then we do. I dont think you will have to worry about it jumping timing esp if you run a horizontal bar belt with a mild auto tensioner on the slack side.

The procharger is something I slapped together to see how the old truck would act. I shouldnt have said anything about it honestly because it is not permeant. Spoolup was awesome but the parasitic loss of the procharger killed my top end. Honestly, peak power was down dramatically but off idle and mid were great. Had it feeding an S475/87/1.10ar.

The procharger will not be on for Scheid...if all goes well ill have a new set of twins finished up by then.

Didnt mean to crud up your thread with my pervious post or this one. Anyone who wants pictures or details PM me and ill fill ya in.

 

Douglas, he knows this but doesn't want to do it the easy way! He wants something no one else, and to come up with a cool design and make it work. Personally, I applaud that! It takes someone going out on a limb, doing things no one else thinks will work and making it work to where the nay-sayers realise they were wrong and that it can be done. Most of the common mods on our trucks wouldn't be common without folks like W150CTDproject.

 

This thing is gonna be BAD when you get it done. I can't wait to see the results. If there was a way to get more fuel out of the little VEs reliably I would still have one.

 

A 13mm or 14mm head will give you more fuel.

 

If you think a mechanical advance is an easy project I come to a choice between pair of conclusions. First being I wish to offer you work, second being you've got no idear the diff between yer butt and a hole in the ground.

Doing things that are hard is an old family tradition. While I don't practice it as noteably as my grandparents or my father it is me too. Soooo, aside from the look, what does that twin VE thing have going for it? Max pressure is lower for them v. the P7100. What about maximum volume? Probably higher for two VE( assuming they're sync'd properly ). What does it get you? You want something cool that runs, or do you want something better? I just haven't seen the justification for this besides uniqueness for its getting created.

Make no mistake, I am not trying to do anything like rain on your parade. Wish you put more of the design criterea on the post is about it; cause if you think two VE's is worth the effort based on the published set of goals I can't help thinking there's something missing.

Now if you're going to use the Gates belt for drive, let me suggest getting intimately familiar with their care and feeding. It is a lot simpler that one might think to shred one. OTOH, they wear better than steel if you treat them right.
cheers,
Douglas

 

to me it seems that gear to gear would be the best way to run 2 pumps and not need to always worry about timing.

 

Firstly, I don't know why you quoted me and then went on about how bad of an idea it is. It's not me doing the project. Secondly, I can always have more work, but first you offered me a job, then insulted me, in the same sentence. Why would I want to work for a guy like that?
Doing things the hard way is an old family tradition... ever heard of the phrase 'Smarter not harder?'
Have a nice day.

Sorry for the hijack.