Does anyone's brakes work?
#31
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No, it is a proportioning valve. Dodge calls it a combination valve because it has a sender unit also that turns on the brake light when there is a problem. I believe that all combo-disk/drum setups needed them to delay the application of the front disks a tad, to prevent spin-out...Mark
Thanks for clearing that up.
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I don't know what the secret is. It seems that some trucks stop great and some don't. For mine I think i'm going to do the disc upgrade in the rear and bypass the abs system. I also thot I would ditch the prop valve and install an adjustable one for the rear. I do think that our front brakes are a little antiquated. I'm talking about the caliper slides. I have all new brake stuff on all four corners, plus new master and booster. But my pedal is too soft for me. About two months ago I had the front end apart and I decided to clean the caliper slide contacts on the bracket and caliper with a sander and I regreased them. After that the pedal was a little more firm. About a week after that it went right back to where it was. I'm with Mark. I will have good breaks someday. I'll figure something out.
Jake
Jake
Also I can tell when the rear drums are out of adjustment by the peddle position. I bet this is a major reason why most peoples brakes suck is because they never adjust the shoes.
#34
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In my case, you would lose. It is not that simple. That is why I am installing disks, to eliminate the rear drums altogether. Adjustment is and was not my problem. It is most likely a failure in an already replaced, pretty expensive part (you can imagine whichever, because it applies to them all). I have a hard time believing that EVERY rebuilt booster, MC or modulator valve is bad, but I suppose that with a glaring lack of pride in workmanship that seems to be the rule of the day, it is possible. One thing I wonder is an air gap problem with the exciter ring and sensor. The repair for this is a rear end rebuild...that is just not right just to have working brakes, a communist conspiracy I think ...Mark
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#36
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Depends on what calipers you use. I know in the chevy world they hate the cadillac calipers, the park brake stops working shortly after install. The stock front chev calipers which are the other option are easy to get.
Depends what you can get calipers for $$, up here they are pricy but i know many guys down their that seem to get them for next to nothing.
Depends what you can get calipers for $$, up here they are pricy but i know many guys down their that seem to get them for next to nothing.
#37
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Depends on what calipers you use. I know in the chevy world they hate the cadillac calipers, the park brake stops working shortly after install. The stock front chev calipers which are the other option are easy to get.
Depends what you can get calipers for $$, up here they are pricy but i know many guys down their that seem to get them for next to nothing.
Depends what you can get calipers for $$, up here they are pricy but i know many guys down their that seem to get them for next to nothing.
#39
Dana 60 parts are mostly interchangeable, so no problem there. I think if I changed the outers I would go chevy. Calipers are cheaper and I like the slides better. For the rear you can get caliper brackets from Ruff Stuff for $70. I can get chevy 3/4 ton calipers for $20 at autozone. That's means I have no parking brake but I'll go with a line lock or even a driveline brake. So for $200 plus brake lines I'll have disc brakes. I'm not knocking the egr kit, but I'm getting married in two months so no $900 truck parts for awhile.
Jake
Jake
#40
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That's not necessarily true if you marry right.
You can marry more money in five minutes that you can work out in two lifetimes.
I have known old dead-beat poor boys who didn't have two cents for anything to up and marry some well-heeled old gal and all of a sudden have all kinds of nice toys to play with and cash to fix them up with.
It's all in not jumping into something one can't afford.
#41
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Well, 2 of the 3 boxes came today and I have to say that these calipers are impressive and are nothing like a Cadillac. I hope the other parts come in tomorrow...Mark
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#43
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Yes, I think. but I am not sure if it is a cam or a ratcheting setup. I will get a better look tomorrow when I install them, because the other box arrived and all parts are accounted for. The brackets are powder coated white and everything is very professionally made. It even uses the stock parking brake cable. I am going to do an install thread, so I'll take lots of pics...Mark
#45
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>>> brake line fittings <<<
Does anyone know the size of the brake-line that is between the proportioning-valve and RWAL valve at the rear ??
I have a double-flare kit.
In order to bypass the RWAL and hopefully get some rear brake response, can I just cut off that weird sized fitting, re-route the line, add a new fitting that fits the flexible line, and double-flare ??
When more time allows, I intend to install a proper proportioning valve and all new lines everywhere.
Thanks.
I have a double-flare kit.
In order to bypass the RWAL and hopefully get some rear brake response, can I just cut off that weird sized fitting, re-route the line, add a new fitting that fits the flexible line, and double-flare ??
When more time allows, I intend to install a proper proportioning valve and all new lines everywhere.
Thanks.