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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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Has anyone ever thought to install a TAG to the inlet of their turbo?

http://www.dieselpowerproducts.net/tag

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HMMMMM, looks just like the air "straighteners" they use in Mass Airflow Sensors" Might be a good idea! A bell (or veloicity stack) would be advantageous. I dont worry too much about fragging a turbo, (I am only pushing 30 PSI) and I figure the Intercooler would catch anything big enough to hurt the engine. I like the Idea of a "screen" over the intercooler inlet. I would think 1/4 in would work, but it would have to be sturdy. I remember several years ago there was a company that produced intake gaskets for Gassers that had some fine Brass screen imbeded in them to help atomize the fuel, but I dont think that it would stand a chance against a Turbo failure. Not to Hijack the thread, but as long as we are talking about intake tracts, I was looking at an electric exhaust "cutout" at the Speed shop, 3" diameter, and acts pretty quickly. Does anyone have an opinion on using something like this on the OUTLET of the turbo to stop runaway? I realize it would be hard on the turbo, but they are cheaper than an engine! Besides I wathced a Detroit run away and explode once, and it was frightening.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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get a Amsoil EAAU4510...buy it once, never oil it, clean it with shop air only, and it flows alot better than the BHAF. all you need to mount it is a piece of scrap metal and a 1/4 28 nut to make a mount and cut the flange off the stock air box (where the intake pipe mounts) and use it to clamp it on. the filter even comes with the clamp
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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When I first installed the Cummins in my Ford, due to several logistical circumstances, I simply clamped one of those cone-shaped K&N filters direct to the turbo-inlet.

I am tempted to remove all that expensive space-robbing intake tubing, filter-box, etc. that I later engineered and installed, and go back with the simple filter clamped on the turbo, as my engine seemed twice as quick and got higher fuel-mileage before I did everything "right".

And the turbo sure had a keen whistle.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Lane

Has anyone ever thought to install a TAG to the inlet of their turbo?

http://www.dieselpowerproducts.net/tag

Or a simple Velocity Stack?

http://www.turbohoses.com/Turbohosesairramintake.jpg


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I know the gasser turbo and procharger guys rock those things... Apparently worth quite a bit of power too. Between 30 and 50 from what i recall on a 500-800 hp gas engine.
I know my truck is a truck, and I need an air filter on it, so as soon as they come out with a 8" pipe and air filter inlet into a 4" velocity stack for the turbo that fits under the hood... lol
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by big stinky
as soon as they come out with a 8" pipe and air filter inlet into a 4" velocity stack for the turbo that fits under the hood.

You need to become they and just build it.

If you wait on them, it may never happen.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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The stock airbox and filter is fine for mild mods. The filter is rated at 450cfm - plenty for up to 300hp. Enlarging the intake tube and the core support hole it attaches to gives a good, true CAI setup for very little cash, far superior to anything you can buy. It also retains the important attribute of COLD AIR INTAKE, or at least relatively so.

I would not consider anything other than the stock intake system until you are talking about bigger injectors and going over 300hp. There's a reason they designed it the way they did. No $300 plastic pipe and crappy filter vendor is smarter than the original designers. But they may be smart enough to bling you out of your $300.

My $.02.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Lane
Has anyone ever thought to install a TAG to the inlet of their turbo?

http://www.dieselpowerproducts.net/tag

Or a simple Velocity Stack?

http://www.turbohoses.com/Turbohosesairramintake.jpg
Jim
I've thought about the TAG and looked into them. I like the concept and the gains, but couldn't ever justify the $$$ for the gains.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BearKiller
When I first installed the Cummins in my Ford, due to several logistical circumstances, I simply clamped one of those cone-shaped K&N filters direct to the turbo-inlet.

I am tempted to remove all that expensive space-robbing intake tubing, filter-box, etc. that I later engineered and installed, and go back with the simple filter clamped on the turbo, as my engine seemed twice as quick and got higher fuel-mileage before I did everything "right".

And the turbo sure had a keen whistle.
That makes the turbo suck in all the hot air off the exhaust manifold and all the hot air sturring up in that general area, think about it....alternator, exhaust manifold, engine block...

Put it out into the fender with all that difficult plumbing and you keep it out of the hot hot air in the engine compartment and suck in nice cold, dense air from outside. Even if its 100* outside, its probably at least 130* under the hood
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace
The stock airbox and filter is fine for mild mods. The filter is rated at 450cfm - plenty for up to 300hp. Enlarging the intake tube and the core support hole it attaches to gives a good, true CAI setup for very little cash, far superior to anything you can buy. It also retains the important attribute of COLD AIR INTAKE, or at least relatively so.

I would not consider anything other than the stock intake system until you are talking about bigger injectors and going over 300hp. There's a reason they designed it the way they did. No $300 plastic pipe and crappy filter vendor is smarter than the original designers. But they may be smart enough to bling you out of your $300.

My $.02.

Amen to the above. I've BHAF'd it and back and forth and the only difference I've noticed was the turbo gets louder.

The stock exhaust on the other hand....

I did notice a drop in EGT after going to a 4" DP back BIGEXHUAST.COM system.
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