Hi guys, today after work I installed a known good 93 5spd PCM. Then I cut the 3 wire prong (backup light/neutral saftey switch wire) and installed the new NV4500 pigtail on the white and violet/black stripe wires. Then (temporarily) ran a jumper wire from the neg off the batt to the black wire (NSS). When I went to start the truck not only did the truck not start but I also noticed that the headlights and horn didnt work either.

I think tomorrow I will put the auto PCM back into the truck. Does anyone know if the PCM has anything to do with the horn or headlights? Thats the only thing I messed with electrical on the truck. Other than the unplugging the clutch pedal bypass plug then installing it into the clutch slave switch. I guess its possible that when I installed the 5spd pedals I hit something but I double checked and didnt see anything unplugged under the dash. Any help is greately appreciated. Thanks, RAM+
P.S. Here is a pic of the pigtail I cut, it also has the two other auto plugs for the overdrive and pressure line sensor. I believe I can just leave this dead. Thanks

 

I think you blew a fusible link somewhere. You have the wiring right.

Not a PCM issue!

 

just one question: why do you need to put a 5-sp pcm in there? If your pcm was for an auto and the signal is gone, it is not going to adversely affect pcm operation, right? Do you need it for neutral safety? I decided not to put neutral safety back on, because I don't like the idea of the throwout bearing pushed out cold. And 15 years ago or so, neutral safety did not exist, you just shook your shifter from side to side to make sure you were in neutral, left the clutch alone, and started the engine. OK, I'm getting carried away...
Just wondering about your reason for the pcm

 

Ok, I will check my fuseable links and put the auto pcm back in it. But the question remains. What caused the link to pop if that did happen. Could the 5spd pcm be bad and that caused it? Or the fact that I first tried to start it without grounding the neutral wire first? I had both batt terminals off while all the work was being done. I just got home from work so heading to dads shop now.
Thanks for all your help guys.

 

BILLUT you were dead on. As soon as I reinstalled the factory Auto pcm everything worked as should. I even took your advice and installed the loop plug for the clutch pedal switch. I am not sure what the PCM has to do with the horn or lights but the auto pcm made them work. I did use my DVOM and all the fuse links had power to the power wires.

I got the neutral wire grounded up in the engine bay away from everything. Then got the wiring harness tucked away and zip tied tight. Then all the drivelines and transfer case guard on. Got it off the jack stands and told my dad to take a ride to check the tranny and clutch. The smile on his face said it all when he came in the driveway. Tomorrow I hope to receive the getrag shifter boot I bought from another member and install them and the 4x4 shifter boots. Then clean the small grease stains I accidently left on the center hump. I want to thank everyone for there helpful advice. I took a weeks vac in July for Carlisle and he has already asked me to do a club cab swap for him that week on another truck he has. Does anyone know if Eneregy Suspensions makes cab mounts for a 1993 club cab? If not anyone know who does? Thanks

 

Hey man, I'm glad it worked for you and that your Dad is happy with the work you did. A little magic goes a long way...

 

The good news to that. The engine will start with no issues.

The bad news you cruise controll is not going to work.

 

Philip why did you have to rain on my parade. You are correct. I received the boots today and installed them as well as cleaned up the slight grease stains. So I felt it was nessary to take a test drive myself. Being I to have a nv4500 truck I felt some exsperince. We all know I just wanted to drive it. Anyways, I took it on the highway and was checking everything and as you stated the cruise isnt working. I also noticed the speedo was off by almost 10mph. I think the transfer case he bought was out of a truck with a different gear ratio.
1. Anyone know what can be done to fix the cruise control?
2. Can I simply swap the speedo gear from the auto np205 and install it in the manual np205? Can someone chime in whats involved in doing that? Is there a seal there? Can it be done installed in the truck or do I need to drop it back out?
Here is a pic or two of the truck now. Thanks for everyones advice. RAM

 

Just so you know brand new Brake/clutch pedal pads are available from dodge They're $22, I got some

Part number- 03492833

Only 14 sets left nationwide.

 

These are brand new brandon. I bought 3 sets of them about 3 months ago. For some reason they have a slight whitish tint to them. But they are straight from Mopar Also my dad bought the last 2 clutch slave assembies in the country (as told to him by our buddy at the dealer). I wish I would have had some black paint to paint the pedal arms. Also I just noticed the clutch pedal doesnt come up as far as the ones in our other trucks. I drove the truck and the clutch engages perfectly. Odd! RAM

 

Good bushing where the clutch rod hooks to the pedal?

The little pin coming off the pedal wears a groove into it and often the pedal will sag down or flop around alot

 

^ the wierd thing is the pedal doesnt have any play in it. It feels tight, If you grab it you cant even pull it level with the brake pedal.

 

Clip the brown/yellow wire to the PCM so it stops thinking you are in Park and the cruise will work.

 

I thought of that but I thought if I did that it wouldnt start. What if I put it on a switch? So it will start then if I want cruise I flip a switch then kill the ground to the PCM. Remember I have the auto pcm still in it. Thanks wanna

 

The speedo gear will be the same between an auto and stick 205. I have had both apart not to long ago. The speedo drive pinion's also have the same numbers on them