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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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12 V Heads

Whats the difference or differences in the non i/c head, i/c head and the later p-pump heads? Just talking to a friend about this and no one we know has any real knowledge of the difference. Does anyone know?
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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Only diff I know of is the non IC has the 9mm injector tips and is more prone to cracking around the injectors there might be more.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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Yes, that is the only difference. The only difference between the I/C 1st gen head and a p-pumped head is the holes that the throttle linkage bracket bolts too are spaced a little farther apart. Completely interchangeable.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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I wasn't sure if one flowed better than the other or if one had "bigger smaller" combustion chambers or not ect..
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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So one would have to change the throttle linkage bracket if changing to a newer head? (assuming non i/c)
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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I was curious about head differences myself,last fall I had 3 engines tore down in my shop,a 90 N/I, 93 I/C, a 97 p-pump. the 97 had smoother casting & alot more open valve bowl area,looked to flow better especially on intake side.the 93 looked very close to the 97. the big difference was between the non-intercooled,looking in the intake side the valve bowl had more casting material down in the path of flow.aside from 7 mm vs 9 mm injector bore the p-pump is notched for overflow valve removal. the cams between the 97 & 90 are way different. the 90 cam has alot more opening duration ,a better cam for performance,changed later for emmisions,I suspect. not sure what the 1st gen I/C cam looks like. the non I/C has bigger piston bowls,155* spray. intercooled are 145* smaller bowl pistons. PODS riun cleaner in NON I/C motors,power gain not as much over stock 4x.0012 injectors, lots of minor changes over the years.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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crewcabxlt thanks for the info.. Saved me some time continuing looking for such info.. I didn't know if the diesels did like the old gasser engines and had some heads better than others. Bigger/smaller combustion chambers, valves, and port sizing. Everyone I knew didn't have an answer or have any idea.
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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I see in your sig your trucks are all intercooled,you should be fine to work with what you have,clean up your exhaust ports,port match your exhaust manifold,I run a 3rd gen intake horn,some guys put bigger valves in, pay lots for porting etc,your money is better spent on other things,turbos,fuel delivery,even intercooler upgrade & intercooler tubing,the list can go on.good luck.
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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ive always wondered this, I have a 93 head after my dad cracked the old one.
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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crewcabxlt your right on this. The reason asking other than kicking around some ideas and not knowing for sure is I have a spare 93 i/c engine. It is just setting in the corner lonely wanting some attention. I guess it will be about 5th in line project. Since the economy has us slowed down alot I finally have time to play with my ole 1st gens just hate to spent much money. I need to find someone in the Houston or surrounding area to do some porting. I'd rather do it myself than to let some knucklehead do it, unless I can find a reputable shop. Thanks for your input.
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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the second gen ppump 12v heads flow almost 25% more air, the first gen heads are a bit weird so they dont flow as much.
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramrod90
Yes, that is the only difference. The only difference between the I/C 1st gen head and a p-pumped head is the holes that the throttle linkage bracket bolts too are spaced a little farther apart. Completely interchangeable.
I run a ported/O-ringed 2nd gen head and I did have to drill the existing boss for the 1st gen throttle bracket. It's no big deal . . . .





It's been my understanding that the flow differences of the generations are minor with the '93 head being more desirable for porting potential (better OEM casting) . . . . so says the folks at PDR.
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