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1 ton shivey needs cummins

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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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I think over on the TDR there is a cummins conversion category. Maybe someone over there could help you.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Go over to

www.Cummins-Conversion.com

and they will be glad to share their knowledge.

Many over there have Cummins in various kinds of Chevys; although, Ford conversions prevail; probably because, Ford offered a real diesel in their trucks several years before Dodge or Chevy and those engines are getting tired.

I swapped in a 1st Gen. Cummins, and replaced a lot of other stuff that just needed replacing, and still spent less money than a rebuild would have cost; and, I have a better truck going the route I chose.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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FORDCUMMINS may have info on this.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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e-bay

check on e-bay there was a hwole kit to put a cummins in a chevy engine trensmission t case the whole shibang it was on there wednsday just a thought
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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What kind of things are you Looking for? I may be able to point you in the right direction. What Drivetrain is this guy wanting to run Chevy Or Dodge?

Those people on the Chevy Sites crack me up. I am a BIG Chevy guy but I can tell you 6.2 and 6.5 are Junk!!!!!!!!!!
If you want good power. They arn't bad in stock form, and thats the end of it.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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I think the bread trucks with a 4bt used a Muncie 4 speed...but not sure.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Some of them use a TH400. So u can use just about any GM automatic trans. IMOP the only one that works well is the 4L80E. Its has OD and it is Computer Controlled, we use a TCI trans controller and it is really fun to play with.

We have toasted a few 400's behind a Cummins. I am shure if you build one you could make it hold but I Just don't feel it worth it.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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I have a adaptor kit for a chevy auto .

Dale
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by txs
His is a 91, the only question I need answered is how to get the cummins hooked up to his tranny, if possible. If it was 2 wheel drive it wouldn't be a problem, could use anything heavy enough to hold the torque. I was wondering about the chevy bread truck box vans, what they use for a tranny behind the 4bt? Also I have a 653 allison, but I don't think you can hook it to a transfer case.
I believe the 91 has the SM465 "granny" 1st gear. You would need everything from the back of a P30 Chevy stepvan that was retrofitted with a standard shift 4BT Cummins. All accesories from the 4BT will bolt onto a first gen 6BT Cummins Dodge engine. The only problem is that the stock 1 ton gearing is too low in high gear and you will end up with a 40 mph screamer without an overdrive transmission.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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It sounds like he may have the 4L80e in his truck now. The bread trucks did have a GM pattern. There is a guy in Georgia we get all of our Parts from, including the starter,flywheel and web ring to connect the converter.
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