Who tows a 5th wheel with their short bed?
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Thanks but no, I wasn't asking if you could back into a 90* position. I was asking if you could drive forward and perform a full left or right steering wheel lock without out the slide and not contact the cab. Yes, that would probably mean a U turn but more what I'm getting at is being able to easily maneuver through a parking lot without needing to push the slider back. I fully understand the need for a slider and that the chances of ever having a trailer that can 90* with a short bed is slim to none but what I'm wanting is to just be able to drive without worrying about trailer to cab contact. Parking.....is a completely different subject. I "know" I wont be able to park without the slider and thats perfectly OK. Thats why I was shocked to read how far your pin is under the trailer. Most short bed friendly trailers are not only scalloped but the pin is 6" or more out in front of the trailer.
and you can park without sliding your hitch you just have to be very careful and not put yourself in a bind.
My trailer isn't necessarily a "Short bed Friendly" trailer. That considered if I can maneuver around in semi tight spots without necessarily needing to slide my hitch back you should have an easier time if you did get a short bed friendly trailer.
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38 FT driven from coast to coast, no problems in parking lots or camp sites. The bigger problem is in cities, trying to make right hand turns from turning lanes when other cars are in their turn lanes trying to go left. They do kinda Treat you like a big rig and back up for you tho Just get a 5th wheel with an extended pin and you should be ok.
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38 FT driven from coast to coast, no problems in parking lots or camp sites. The bigger problem is in cities, trying to make right hand turns from turning lanes when other cars are in their turn lanes trying to go left. They do kinda Treat you like a big rig and back up for you tho Just get a 5th wheel with an extended pin and you should be ok.
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Thanks for the kind words. My suspension is still stock but I will get airbags when I return from Iraq, along with a few other mods. I'm sorry I dont know the distance of the king pin from cab, I've never measured it. Heartland does have the 88 degree turn feature on their trailers tho and I've used every bit of it in certain situations. Anyway, best of luck on your hunt.
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Thanks for the kind words. My suspension is still stock but I will get airbags when I return from Iraq, along with a few other mods. I'm sorry I dont know the distance of the king pin from cab, I've never measured it. Heartland does have the 88 degree turn feature on their trailers tho and I've used every bit of it in certain situations. Anyway, best of luck on your hunt.
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Another option is the Sidewinder pin box. I started out with a manual slider and it was a pain to use, you always needed it at the wrong time. On flat ground you could plan ahead on your turns but I ran into problems turning into parking lots and gas stations when the entrance was a quick uphill turn, when the nose of the truck goes uphill and the trailer is still on flat ground things get close real quick. I then put a Sidewinder pin box on and it works great, tons of clearance and you can unhook at any angle, I also did not have to change anything on the truck.
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Another option is the Sidewinder pin box. I started out with a manual slider and it was a pain to use, you always needed it at the wrong time. On flat ground you could plan ahead on your turns but I ran into problems turning into parking lots and gas stations when the entrance was a quick uphill turn, when the nose of the truck goes uphill and the trailer is still on flat ground things get close real quick. I then put a Sidewinder pin box on and it works great, tons of clearance and you can unhook at any angle, I also did not have to change anything on the truck.
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Thanks 07PatriotBlue. I've actually been informed about the Sidewinder and I've asked about that contraption on other threads. My only concern is I've heard enough negative feedback about the Sidewinder to make me think that it may not be the best option. Really.....I dont know.....and really all this research is becoming more exhausting as I go.
You're frettin way too much but to your defense I did it too!!
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Thanks 07PatriotBlue. I've actually been informed about the Sidewinder and I've asked about that contraption on other threads. My only concern is I've heard enough negative feedback about the Sidewinder to make me think that it may not be the best option. Really.....I dont know.....and really all this research is becoming more exhausting as I go.
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I've heard that they can be difficult to hook up to the 5th wheel if the truck/trailer isnt setting perfect, they can be loud and annoying with all the clanking and banging from the wedge and geometry, they can set so far back that the trailer could possibly contact the sides of the bed or tailgate during turns, they can place unwarranted stress on the trailer frame and the hitch itself, and lastly (but most important) there was someone who claimed that their Sidewinder had disconnected while driving because of a design flaw which led to tremendous damage to truck and trailer. Haven't heard anymore about the last one but I have to admit that it was enough to scare me.
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I've heard that they can be difficult to hook up to the 5th wheel if the truck/trailer isnt setting perfect, they can be loud and annoying with all the clanking and banging from the wedge and geometry, they can set so far back that the trailer could possibly contact the sides of the bed or tailgate during turns, they can place unwarranted stress on the trailer frame and the hitch itself, and lastly (but most important) there was someone who claimed that their Sidewinder had disconnected while driving because of a design flaw which led to tremendous damage to truck and trailer. Haven't heard anymore about the last one but I have to admit that it was enough to scare me.
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Thanks for the feedback. After installing and using mine I can see how some people would have these problems. The problems you have heard can be avoided by taking your time and lining everything up correctly during install and also by doing some minor maintenance to make sure everything stays torqued and moving free. Good luck on your decision but you might want to try and check out some of your options in person. Seeing and touching might help you make a good decision.
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I think I am confused. Are you looking for a trailer that has the turning ability or have you decided on one and are looking for just the measurements? I tow with a Megacab and just bought a Wildwood Heritage Glen series 5th wheel by Forest River. By far the most aggressive rake on their front cap of any 5th wheel that I have ever seen. I have a Reese manual slider that I haven't had to use yet. I can turn more than 90* and don't come close to the cab with it in the "towing" position. My friend also tows with a megacab and he tows a Rockwood ultralight 5th wheel. He tows with a gooseneck adapter and has no issues with cab to front cap clearance. I guess it all depends on the trailer. Even with specific kingpin to cab measurements, I would think that all becomes a moot point since you need to factor in the corners on the front of the trailer more than anything. There are a lot of trailers designed for shortbed trucks nowadays so the best thing is to find the trailers you like that look like they are going to work and adapt your towing to that. Trying to figure in measurements, distances, trailers and all that is gonna melt your brain for sure. Also try RVforum.net and see what those folks say. They have a lot of good advice and can point you in a good direction for trailer info as well.