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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 01:18 AM
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What is a going charge for hauling hay, cars, etc... Please help!!

I have over a year and a half of towing a 22' beaver tail flat bed. With my new truck and all this summer I would like to haul hay and what not for people but I have no idea what to charge? I have a friend that owns a nice 24' flatbed(only 2 years old) and he just hauls a bobcat around on it during the winter months when he plows his business driveway. I'm sure I can use this but I would prefer my own trailer. We have a 3 horse slant bp that can hold 1 1/2 tons of hay with no problem and my truck can hold 1/2 or 1 ton depending on how I want to stack it. So it can be done without a nice trailer but I would rather be able to haul lots at a time and save on trips/fuel.

Do I need a business license to do this?

I believe in the law in Oregon is over 26000gvw a higher license rating is needed but below that is there any stipulations?

I can rent 20' bp low boys equipment trailer at an equipment rental place for $14 a day if I remember right. I know my insurance will cover a trailer but will it cover someone else's trailer and another persons cargo?

Anyone with this type of hauling experience please chime in!!
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 01:27 AM
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$3.00 a loaded mile.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 01:36 AM
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Just FYI, but if you are worried about being legal, ANY transport for profit requires Fed DOT inspections and registration..and it can get expensive if caught without it.......
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 01:37 AM
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So only charge from a destination or charge to and from?

Thanks for the reply

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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can only charge loaded mile plus any downtime waiting to be loaded and as far as DOT unless your over 26k gross weight or crossing state lines you dont need a # thats hre not sure about their ask at your statesDOT office
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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Can you get around the legal stuff by buying, transporting your own hay, then selling it?
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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I would be in state and no one would know if its just hay, so many people haul hay around here... But thanks for the input.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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Get info from the insurnace company on EXACTLY what they will cover. Mine told me they cover liability for the trailer if connected to my truck, but do NOT cover any cargo on the trailer, or repair of the trailer itself if it is damaged.
So, if my trailer comes unhooked and hits another car, and the tractor falls off the trailer, the other car is covered, but nothing else.
They wanted me to add additional coverage to cover the trailer, but still wouldn't cover the cargo. You're probably going to need some kind of commercial policy to cover cargo.

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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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federal dot law has changed last year, u might not know it...Any truck with a gvw of 10k or more has to have a dot # and business name...doesnt matter what type of business u are doing......http://www.permitsplus.com/dot.htm
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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does that apply to hauling your own goods. like if drive is owner of hay?

I haul my own wood all the time with my tandem 7klb axles 20ft trailer. it's not unusual to be hauling 20k lbs including trailer weight

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federal dot law has changed last year, u might not know it...Any truck with a gvw of 10k or more has to have a dot # and business name...doesnt matter what type of business u are doing......http://www.permitsplus.com/dot.htm
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Ya and technically I own the hay till I am paid when I deliver it since I payed for it at the field. I found some clients to haul for this summer, I was told the going rate for delivering 3 tons of hay and stacking it was $190!!! Thats mad money for me, I go stack hay for older ppl and get paid maybe $20-$50 to stack. The hauling part would be the easiest.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 12:05 AM
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I hauled round bales (average 1400lbs each) a few times in the last month for random farmers in my area. I'd take 8 at a time and they would be happy payin me $28 a ton. I had to load them and unload but pretty good money. Only had to haul them 25kms
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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Anyone know how much hay can be safely fit on a 8x16 flatbed (car hauler style trailer. 50-80 lb square bails.

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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by thewished
Anyone know how much hay can be safely fit on a 8x16 flatbed (car hauler style trailer. 50-80 lb square bails.

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Most car haulers are rated for 5,200#. So how ever many bails equal that weight.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 2500
does that apply to hauling your own goods. like if drive is owner of hay?

I haul my own wood all the time with my tandem 7klb axles 20ft trailer. it's not unusual to be hauling 20k lbs including trailer weight
If you aren't crossing state lines FMCSA laws don't apply but check with state authorities . I know interstate haulers complain about OK being tough . I know KY vehicle enforcement likes to crack down on locals with 1 tons if they see them hooked to any type of trailer . That puts them over 10,000 lbs. gcw and the driver better have a medical card , DOT inspection on the truck and trailer and more .
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