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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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I would also pull the ABS fuse for slippery/loose road conditions - unless you're not a good, experienced driver.
Why would you want to do that? Is that not what ABS is for?
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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Keep youre fuel in good shape i have saw i 40 shut down for several hours even days between the OK/TX line and NM
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Why would you want to do that? Is that not what ABS is for?
Because ABS sucks plain and simple. It doesn't help you stop just helps you hit what the truck it pointed at. A driver that has good winter roads skills can stop a vehicle shorter than just stabbing the brake pedal on an ABS equipped vehicle.

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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Why would you want to do that? Is that not what ABS is for?
I too am a huge hater of ABS.

Anyone here ever had your ABS screw you up when having to hard brake (not by choice, the other idiots actions) on any road that is bumpy or any type of gravel/dirt road??

Hell, pure hell. One does not know what the hell your truck is going to do when that crap kicks on and kicks off.

As far ice and ABS, not a clue. Hell, down here in Texas we might see ice once or twice a winter. The rest of the year it's shorts and t-shirts, and that includes most of November thru March!!

Good luck on your trip!
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Well my abs is not hooked up to my trailer and maybe that's why someone suggested to disconnect, It makes sense, But i am going to be safe and take my time, and not screw anything up....


Again you guys have been a huge help and again I thank you...
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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"Because ABS sucks plain and simple. It doesn't help you stop just helps you hit what the truck it pointed at."

The accident rate for pickups went down with ABS, as previously the rear end would easily lock up, kick around, and off you, spinning the down road until you quit bouncing off of stuff and stop or go off the road. In low traction situations you need to make sure that you have tires adequate for the conditions, otherwise ABS can increase your stopping distances a lot. I recommend severe snow rated winter tires, I prefer studded, and I also still carry chains as I've had to use them even with 4wd and 4 studded tires.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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We are talking about ABS on a vehicle with a trailer behind it that does not have ABS and on ice or snow , in that situation the trailer will try to pass our push the truck during hard braking . ABS was not designed for towing and you would be much better with out it in this situation . Hopefully someone will wake up and add a switch that we can decide when we want it and when we do not . Until that happens I would always pull the fuse in the driving conditions you are describing .
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 1sttruck
"Because ABS sucks plain and simple. It doesn't help you stop just helps you hit what the truck it pointed at."

The accident rate for pickups went down with ABS, as previously the rear end would easily lock up, kick around, and off you, spinning the down road until you quit bouncing off of stuff and stop or go off the road. In low traction situations you need to make sure that you have tires adequate for the conditions, otherwise ABS can increase your stopping distances a lot. I recommend severe snow rated winter tires, I prefer studded, and I also still carry chains as I've had to use them even with 4wd and 4 studded tires.
As I said properly trained driver not some urban cowboy that jumps behind the wheel. I grew up riding and driving on ice covered roads about half the year. Never once had the rear end try to pass the front unless I was doing so on purpose My wife on the other hand has ended up facing the wrong direction on a wet road more than once in my truck.

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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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ABS was designed for the average driver, who isn't very good at it!

Unless you're an good driver with out-of-control experience behind the wheel, leave the ABS alone; however, if you KNOW how to drive, you can certainly stop faster without it... the main benefit of ABS (rarely used) is the ability to steer AROUND the problem, but most drivers look and therefore steer straight at what they're about to hit.

I have an ABS fuse switch mounted on my center console so I can disable it whenever I'm on loose, gravelly roads or in snowy/icy conditions.

Most of the time ABS works fine - it does help quite a bit if you're not paying attention!
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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I think the 91, we just got, may have ABS.

If so, that is just one more thing to bypass/get rid of.

I hate ABS.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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I just bought an Evolution Lancer, there is two other models that have ABS, the model I bought DOESN'T have ABS... I too don't like ABS, I know I can out brake a car with ABS, been a racer for 39 years, Sprints, karts and now road racing...

I guess I need to locate the ABS fuse for the towing adventure...
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 06:55 AM
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The 91 has ABS on rear only and works awful , I would defiantly disconnect it is a very dangerous setup .
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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NO CRUISE that is key and treat the snow like you would on a ski hill look for good snow to stop on and not the flat shiny stuff
NO CRUISE in any vehicle when roads are wet, snowy, or icy!
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by schaef_12
It's not too bad, Just have confidence in yourself and your driving capabilites. Don't go out of your comfort zone and you will be just fine. Bring all the things you may need, like chains, and don't be afraid to use them. Another Important saftey feature is tires. Make sure the Pickup and Trailer have a good set of tires on them. Other than that Have a good trip.
Unfortunately , your safety depends not only on your capabilities but also everyone else on the road . Last winter in Kentucky I suddenly encountered black ice and pulled to the shoulder to wait for salt trucks . An SUV sped by , spun and hit an F350 pulling a fiver . The F350 ended up upside down and the fiver on its side in the median .
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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ABS Just makes the brakes a nightmare to service.
If I have to spend any money repairing it I just convert the vehicle back to non ABS condition.

BTW its a federal offense for a shop to remove or disable ABS . . . even if you tell them to do it!!
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