Reese 5th wheel hitch over rear axle or ahead? - Dodge Diesel - Diesel Truck Resource Forums



Towing and Hauling / RV Discuss towing and hauling here. Share your tips and tricks. RV and camping discussion welcome.

Reese 5th wheel hitch over rear axle or ahead?

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-15-2008, 08:06 AM   #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3
Reese 5th wheel hitch over rear axle or ahead?

I have a 20k Reese 5th wheel hitch (#30033), with install plate instructions (#30035), in my 2008 3500 Dodge Dually with 8 foot bed.

My Dodge dealer followed the instructions to install this for me. Reese instructions and tech support want this mounted right over the rear axle. Yet after the install, a Reese rep at an RV store said it would be best to have it as much as 5 inches forward of the current position. He said the front wheels are not sharing any of the load. The Reese web site even conflicts on this, saying 52 inches from the cab to the center of the king pin is a minimum. I have found several sources which also suggest a position slightly ahead of the rear axle.

Apparently the truck design made this the desired mounting for Reese. Is Reese lazy about designing a better kit for this truck? Is there a better hitch which addresses this (I don't care about the money I already spent)? Doesn't it really matter?

Thank you !!

- Smooth
Smooth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2008, 08:35 AM   #2  
Muted one day, Banned the next....... Ah the life of a DTR 1%'er
 
cincydiesel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ohio: Home of the disappointing sports teams
Posts: 2,187
Reese is the only company that I've ever heard that wanted the placement over the axles. Dad's 3500 DRW has a Reese mounted over the axle by a Dodge dealership. That truck will BEAT YOU TO DEATH hauling a G/N due to no weight being shared with the front axle. I was going to try a relocate it and actually cut a new hole in the bed but the design will not allow the foward placement dut the interferance with the frame of the truck. In my opinion its a poor design. If it was me I'd sell it and buy another brand
cincydiesel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2008, 09:09 AM   #3  
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Forest Hill, Md
Posts: 17
Hitch Placement

All the instructions I have seen state that the hitch needs to be around 4to5 inches forward of the rear axle. This allows the distribution of the king pin weight over the entire truck. If your weight is too far back it will make your truck front end light and will cause an un-safe condition. I would definitely contact Reese to ensure that the hitch is in the right position before you hook up and go down the road. I know that the ones that I have installed the measurements were taken from the rear of the bed forward for location.
Good luck and be safe...
John Bellmyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2008, 11:28 AM   #4  
Chapter President
 
CTD NUT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Caistor Centre, ON, Canada
Posts: 3,531
Some Reese pin boxes can be flipped around in their mounts to either push the pin slightly forward or aft a few inches. This adjustment is separate from the mounting rail location. Something to look into, anyway.

But yes, 4-5" ahead of the rear axle is fairly common for the pin location - that is where it should be!

Edit: After looking at the diagram of a #30033, it appears that the pin box is not on an offset swivel so the pin cannot be moved fore or aft.
CTD NUT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2008, 11:55 AM   #5  
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 911
good info ...
2500 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2008, 12:05 AM   #6  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3
These have been great reassuring answers. Thank you. Unfortunately it was already installed. So... which manufacture will offer the right configuration for my truck (2008 Dodge dually w/8ft bed)?

Thank you,
- Smooth
Smooth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2008, 11:48 AM   #7  
Chapter President
 
CTD NUT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Caistor Centre, ON, Canada
Posts: 3,531
I have a 3rd gen QC dually (same frame as you) and I can tell you from first hand experience that a Reese/Drawtite/Hidden Hitch 18k signature series 5ver hitch fits on the truck in exactly the right spot. The pin center is 4" ahead of the rear axle center line.
CTD NUT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2008, 12:39 PM   #8  
Registered User
 
Got Juice?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Kanada
Posts: 398
On my last install, I went 3.5" Much better balance than the full 4" forward of centerline.
Got Juice? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2008, 02:47 PM   #9  
Chapter President
 
CTD NUT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Caistor Centre, ON, Canada
Posts: 3,531
Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Juice? View Post
On my last install, I went 3.5" Much better balance than the full 4" forward of centerline.
You are saying you actually feel a 1/2" difference in pin placement?
CTD NUT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2008, 02:59 PM   #10  
Registered User
 
Got Juice?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Kanada
Posts: 398
Quote:
Originally Posted by CTD NUT View Post
You are saying you actually feel a 1/2" difference in pin placement?
Yes, but it depends on how much weight you are towing.

If you tow heavy (hauling hay 20K, equipment CASE465 SSL (11,200+7K trailer)

Then yes, 1/2 inch means the difference between 'hobbyhorsing' like mad down a crowned road, and controlled movement.

Of course I have since added airbags so I can fool with weight centers a little more.
Got Juice? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2008, 03:04 PM   #11  
P.J
Banned
 
P.J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Port Deposit, MD
Posts: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by CTD NUT View Post
I have a 3rd gen QC dually (same frame as you) and I can tell you from first hand experience that a Reese/Drawtite/Hidden Hitch 18k signature series 5ver hitch fits on the truck in exactly the right spot. The pin center is 4" ahead of the rear axle center line.
I had the same hitch, also seen some 24K's installed too.

VERY NICE hitch, install went super smooth, hitch worked flawlessly for me many happy miles. Certainly never a rough ride.
P.J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2008, 12:13 PM   #12  
Registered User
 
ValkSmile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Cincinnati,OH
Posts: 64
I'm gettin ready to have a 16k Drawtite slider installed in my 2006 QC 4x4 short bed. Does anyone know if the Drawtite sits over the rear axle? Should I be buying a different 5th wheel hitch so I can get more weight on the front axles? If so what hitch to get?
ValkSmile is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2008, 12:49 PM   #13  
Registered User
 
Got Juice?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Kanada
Posts: 398
Quote:
Originally Posted by ValkSmile View Post
I'm gettin ready to have a 16k Drawtite slider installed in my 2006 QC 4x4 short bed. Does anyone know if the Drawtite sits over the rear axle? Should I be buying a different 5th wheel hitch so I can get more weight on the front axles? If so what hitch to get?

I have never used Drawtite, so I can't make a comparison.

I have used Reese exclusively since 1992. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Got Juice? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2008, 01:25 PM   #14  
Registered User
 
ValkSmile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Cincinnati,OH
Posts: 64
Just called the dealer and he is actually ordering me a Reese now not a Drawtite like he told me last week. So how about where that Reese is installed?
ValkSmile is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2008, 02:30 PM   #15  
Chapter President
 
CTD NUT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Caistor Centre, ON, Canada
Posts: 3,531
Reese/Drawtite/Hidden Hitch = all the same company....manufactured by CEQUENT TOWING PRODUCTS INC. What hitch did you order? Part #?
CTD NUT is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Reese 18K Elite 5th wheel hitch hotdram CLEANUP! 0 04-25-2015 07:52 PM
Reese 14K 5th wheel hitch 24v Towing and Hauling / RV 8 01-03-2008 09:37 PM
Reese 5th wheel hitch 24v Towing and Hauling / RV 1 03-22-2007 11:34 AM
Reese 5th wheel install ccw55 Towing and Hauling / RV 7 08-20-2004 03:42 PM
5th hitch on axle or ahead?? redhornet Towing and Hauling / RV 7 06-13-2004 04:53 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:27 AM.


Copyright 2017, DieselTruckResource.com
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.