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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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question with towing on 2500

hey guys i have a 95 2500 5 spd with a south bend con OFE clutch. im buying a 26ft gooseneck 14k gvw. will i be ok with pulling this trailer? how much weight would you guys feel safe hauling on the trailer? i have an offer to haul some lifts around local that weigh 10-15k ... what are your guys thoughts on what ill be ok hauling on the trailer and with the truck.

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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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I'd pull it.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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Here is my two cents: I have a 2500 with the over loads sway bars and the same rear end as the 3500s. In my best guess all the 2500s that were set up like the 3500s were a precursor to the newer 3500 srws. I have hauled 5 to 6 tons with my 2500 on our big tex goose neck trailer and I have never once felt like it was un safe or wobbly. I think were the 2500s get a bad rap is there are some that do not have the tow package and don't have the correct axle and the correct springs and no over loads and no sway bars and those are the ones who will load up 10k pounds and have it be a roller coaster ride. So ya in short form if your truck has the tow package and all the goodies I would pull it.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Your 14k gvwr trailer will likely be overloaded with the 10k lift not to mention the 5k of overload with the 15k lift. Overloaded = big fines and hassles with the dot, plus then there is the the requirements of commercial insurance and operating authority to haul for hire (getting paid to haul).
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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hey guys

my truck has the dana 80 rear and 410 gears. so im guessing it has the tow package?? anyway i wont be doing it for a living, just on the side , days off and weekends ... it would be all local work within 150 miles. with the trailer rated at 14,000 lbs.. cant you overload it a bit? also is there any axle weight laws with pickups?
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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That trailer weighs in about 4000-5000 lbs. So that leaves you with about a 9000-10000 lbs cargo capacity. Little shy of what you are wanting to haul. If your talking any kind of distance I would step upto a larger trailer. Also that is more that would be more than I would put behind a 3/4 ton for any amount of distance.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by haulin-rv
Your 14k gvwr trailer will likely be overloaded with the 10k lift not to mention the 5k of overload with the 15k lift. Overloaded = big fines and hassles with the dot, plus then there is the the requirements of commercial insurance and operating authority to haul for hire (getting paid to haul).
You're right the 14k gvwr includes the weight of the trailer but I'm sure he realizes that .
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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what im asking . if i threw a 15k lift on the trailer that weighs 4500 that puts me at 19,500 .. the trailer would be overloaded but ... do you think i will be ok pulling it for 50-75 miles and unloading? im sure the truck will pull it just fine right?
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 95turbo4wd
with the trailer rated at 14,000 lbs.. cant you overload it a bit? also is there any axle weight laws with pickups?
Yes your max axle weights are on the sticker on by the drivers door. And as far as the trailer if its 14k gvwr you are going to be overloaded 2500 pounds or so an axle or 1250 pounds a tire. Thats not safe for any distance.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Don't you guys realize that some of the weight will be on the pickup? The big thing you will need to be careful about with hauling 15k is that you have really good tires like Mich XPS or Goodyear G6xx.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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i have pulled this tractor around with a my 2500 dont know what it weights but i am guessing around 25k with out the trailer. my trailer is new and has really good brakes. and i have an auto with 3.55s
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Overloaded and in an accident=liability is all yours and insurance is nil!!!
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 05:13 AM
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i have pulled this tractor around with a my 2500 dont know what it weights but i am guessing around 25k with out the trailer. my trailer is new and has really good brakes. and i have an auto with 3.55s
I can't see a model number on that John Deere, but our 5525 WITHOUT loader and WITH cab weighs about 7400lbs...and I would guess that bailer to weight about 6-8k at the most...that load WITHOUT trailer probably doesn't weigh over 15-16K man...and I would say that trailer weighs between 6-8 max...so maybe TOTAL load is about 24k tops...not trying to argue, but there is NO way that tractor and bailer weighs 25k alone...
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 95turbo4wd
what im asking . if i threw a 15k lift on the trailer that weighs 4500 that puts me at 19,500 .. the trailer would be overloaded but ... do you think i will be ok pulling it for 50-75 miles and unloading? im sure the truck will pull it just fine right?
Where are you located ? The enforcement in some areas is heavier than others .
You do realize over 10,000 lbs. requires a medical card . A Vehicle Enforcement officer around here would pull a dually over with that load and start writing violations . If you don't have a medical card or other violations are found they could force you to get someone else to finish the haul .
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Don't you guys realize that some of the weight will be on the pickup?
I do. But if the trailer has a 14 gvwr thats calculated into it. For example I looked at a one and it had 2 6000 pound axles and so it relied on putting 2000 pounds on the truck to get to 14k. Overloading is overloading, if it a couple hundred pounds and you get lucky and there are no scales to go by then oh well, but 5000 over is stupid and dangerous.
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