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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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no they wont look at at all but until you say what kind of trailer most of us will think a big trailer and as far as the carpool comment that is a different thing compared to how the dot see's things involving their rules. like i said uships would be your best bet
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rich
if you get money for anything then its for hire wether its for fuel or not, if you have whats neded then you should know where to look but anyway, you can try uship they have people who like to get stuff hauled as cheap as possible
Thanks Rich.
There is a chevelle in In. that needs to go to New Brittan Ct. I will see if it works out.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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I don't think the guys were whining I think they were trying to look out for you.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by badme
Come on get real, it is a single car trailer pulled by a 3/4 ton truck. No one in the world is going to look at it twice, or even once.
All it takes is one nosy cop having a bad day.
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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yeah, I suppose we can all bug off and you can just do what ya want. I mean it is a free country but if you tag someone and your load comes off killing joe bike rider and it's not "yours", it's gonna be your behind not mine or anyone else here. As said, we're just looking out for you and you asked the question we're just giving the honest answers.

I've thought about the same thing you are many times, just did'nt want the risk of loosing everything. Can't control when the accident will happen. Now you know the answers so you can't use the " I did'nt know" defense. I agree with the post fuel would be compensation. You and your friend driving out somewhere to pick up a car and coming back, him paying for your fuel, meals, maybe that would slide if your friend was sitting in the seat next to ya, but not sure about that.

With a simple car trailer and a car you'll likely be ok, but if it comes down to proving ownership if you are questioned or some hot shot gets a hair up his behind or like Big Ram said, one ticked of DOT guy or State boy.

Rich, you'd be surprised at the guys I run into that are "welders" that do work with no insurance/certs and being hired by "licensed" contractors to do structural work. It's all about the money, low low rate(cause they can-no ins/certs) One guy talked about doing many trailer hitches, I have been asked by several insurance carriers if I did trailer hitches, I believe there is some liability behind their questions. This is just what other welders are calling "hacks". Don't adhere to what the guys running honest rigs have to. This guy actually told me he "can't" do vertical up. I called myself a welder when I nailed my structural tests and had papers. Just my .02, sorry not hijacking thread, back to your regularly scheduled dispute................
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Valv
I don't think so.
If he hauls anything for money this makes him for hire, thus is considered commercial thus he will need the whole "package".

Even if you use a bicycle and deliver envelopes for a living, you will need it.

You are exempt from FMCSA authority if your GVWR is under 10,000 lbs. GVWR unless you are hauling hazmat requiring placarding . That's why a lot of expediters run cargo vans . They don't have to have log books .
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by badme
OK lets get this straight. I apparently opened a beehive here.
1. I have the Dot numbers
2. I have the MC authority
3. I have the commercial Insurance.
4. I am under 26K do not need CDL
5. I have the log book.
6. If I am hauling for split of fuel it is not for profit and exempt from all of the above.
7. All of my hauling is done in NH, VT and Me, I just want something to go from Indiana to New England.
If all the whining is done, does anyone care to answer my question??
You're wrong on number 6 . Not all trips are profitable . If you are compensated and over 10,000 lbs. GVWR (and you will be with the trailer ) you need authority .
You say you have authority and insurance . Do you have the $1 million required for auto transport ?
You say no one will pay any attention to the truck . Are your DOT numbers on it ? If not , you're illegal , if yes they will know you're commercial . There is always a risk of accident , more so pulling a trailer in the Northeast in the winter .
Just a little bad luck and we'll see who's whining .
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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These threads ALWAYS turn into this.

Simply put if you receive ANY compensation your getting paid. I have run 1 car on my trailer and that did not even come close to cover my fuel. And yes that was a time I got pulled into a scale and checked. I had all my docs and bill of lading and was sent on my way.
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by badme
Come on get real, it is a single car trailer pulled by a 3/4 ton truck. No one in the world is going to look at it twice, or even once.
That's not the point. The point is to give a person correct and responsible reply. Are you going to sign you will take care of all the fines, the necessary towing, and transportation that might arise IF he will get pulled over ? Are you going to take monetary and legal responsibility for any damage he will incur/cause during an accident ?

That's what could happen if he transports anything not abiding the law. The issue to get "caught" or not is not and issue.

Most important, as he requested let him know if there's a load to pickup.

To respond to his request: you will not find any legal shipper/broker/forwarder that will give you anything unless you are 100% legal, you will find a private or shady company that in the name of cheap will risk the transport.
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Valv
That's not the point. The point is to give a person correct and responsible reply. Are you going to sign you will take care of all the fines, the necessary towing, and transportation that might arise IF he will get pulled over ? Are you going to take monetary and legal responsibility for any damage he will incur/cause during an accident ?

That's what could happen if he transports anything not abiding the law. The issue to get "caught" or not is not and issue.

Most important, as he requested let him know if there's a load to pickup.

To respond to his request: you will not find any legal shipper/broker/forwarder that will give you anything unless you are 100% legal, you will find a private or shady company that in the name of cheap will risk the transport.
Stupid people get cheap bids on U-ship to move their cars and other items . Then you see them crying on other forums when something goes wrong with the shipment . All it takes is getting stopped for going 5 m.p.h. over the speed limit and having the officer ask for your insurance info . Many LEO's will stop a vehicle going slightly over the speed limit just to check log books , insurance info , suspicious behavior , etc . People can take advice or leave it . There are plenty of posts on forums by legal haulers laughing at pickups red tagged at the scales . Some legal haulers know the scalehouse numbers and will call them if they see a potential illegal hauler headed their way .
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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You don't need to be speeding to get pulled over, they can and will just yank you to check you out.

I'll say it again that a small amount of compensation is not worth your financial future or the cost of fines you'll get if caught.
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by haulin-rv
You don't need to be speeding to get pulled over, they can and will just yank you to check you out.

I'll say it again that a small amount of compensation is not worth your financial future or the cost of fines you'll get if caught.
Yeah , like fines up to $11,000 for not having $1 million liability for hauling autos . http://forums.uship.com/Topic57036-13-1.aspx . I know some of these whiners . They love reporting illegals they spot on the highways . Some of them watch U-ship bids and know what is being hauled illegally , where , and when .
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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Try yesterdays iron antique tractors look under the hauling schedule.

http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Try Truckstop.com, if you can find someone with an account.


Dodgeguy, I would like to know who you have insurance with, thats a lot better deal than what I'm paying now. I'm not too far from you.
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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