do the dually have any benefit other then when towing a fifth wheel?
Originally posted by ARMYRAM
Just my $00.02, I had a 2500 03, moved up to a 3500 04, CTD, QC, SB, SRW. Handles the 35' Titanium 5th real well. No sway or other issues, sometimes forget its back there. Yes, wish I'd have gone with the Hidden hitch. I will next time, but the way these CTD last it could be a long time away.
Another issue on the DRW, here in Connecticut the truck requires Commercial plates: = higher Registration, higher insurance and other issues. Not so for the SRW.
Also some of the places I hunt make for tight passage, DRW's where out.
Army
Just my $00.02, I had a 2500 03, moved up to a 3500 04, CTD, QC, SB, SRW. Handles the 35' Titanium 5th real well. No sway or other issues, sometimes forget its back there. Yes, wish I'd have gone with the Hidden hitch. I will next time, but the way these CTD last it could be a long time away.
Another issue on the DRW, here in Connecticut the truck requires Commercial plates: = higher Registration, higher insurance and other issues. Not so for the SRW.
Also some of the places I hunt make for tight passage, DRW's where out.
Army
The sad part is every state and province had/has different rules.
They just changed the classification requirements for 3500 and under vehicles in this province to all classed as Light Vehicle...LV. No longer need any commercial plates. I called Alberta Highways and they were not even aware of this and I was concerned if I had to abide by their rules in their province. They said that all provinces provide reciprocity, which means, you follow the rules of where the rig is registered. I know a few toll highways in the USA where I got nicked for the dual.
Oh well, its all gong to boil down to your preference.
I am sure glad I did not take this truck to Baja. LOL There would be no dually fenders or outside wheels.
Scotty
Stability is the only issue that i can tell you
It will feel much more stable than a single rear wheel... horse trailers should almost always be towed with duallies, so ive been told.. but im happy with my 3/4 ton..... six tires at each change are the only downside as well as wearing out the front two much quicker than the rest.. How do u rotate tires on a dually n e ways??
Tx
It will feel much more stable than a single rear wheel... horse trailers should almost always be towed with duallies, so ive been told.. but im happy with my 3/4 ton..... six tires at each change are the only downside as well as wearing out the front two much quicker than the rest.. How do u rotate tires on a dually n e ways??
Tx
Kninja....Welcome. I live in a 38' fiver that weighs 16,800 lbs. I used to pull it with a 2500 SRW V-10 auto. A few years ago I switched to the 3500 in my sig. There is a world of difference between the two trucks when pulling the fiver. With the SRW, it felt like the trailer was trying to push the rear end of the truck around on tight curves, or quick evasive maneuvers. Never was really comfortable with it. With this DRW, it is totally opposite. The truck controls the trailer no matter what the situation. I no longer fear the quick lane changes when someone cuts you off or pulls in front of you. Good luck with your decision.
Steve
Steve
When I got my truck I noticed the inside duals were more worn than the outside. I was told this is due to the hump in the middle of asphalt roads. I swapped the inners for the outers one side at a time and left the fronts alone since they have the most rubber. I also bumped my pressure up to 65 all the way around. Talk about needing a kidney transplant!
over all the dually is a great truck if you want a "real" truck. Rides like a truck, looks like a truck and with a CTD even smells like a truck
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At work there is no doubt who has the biggest baddest truck in the lot. Nobody says anything when I take up the last 2 spaces in the row. Some even leave me extra space.
The only diesel that made it in when it was -20 deg.
It's a little squishy in the snow but with only 4 wheels driving what's to be expected.
Towing there is no equal. If you tow horses ya gotta have one. Nothing like 6 horses knocking around in a trailer while you are trying to go through traffic. or through the foothills.
1/2 tons....cars with beds.
3/4 ton...diesel ok......1 ton dually...mans truck LOL
.At work there is no doubt who has the biggest baddest truck in the lot. Nobody says anything when I take up the last 2 spaces in the row. Some even leave me extra space.
The only diesel that made it in when it was -20 deg.
It's a little squishy in the snow but with only 4 wheels driving what's to be expected.
Towing there is no equal. If you tow horses ya gotta have one. Nothing like 6 horses knocking around in a trailer while you are trying to go through traffic. or through the foothills.
1/2 tons....cars with beds.
3/4 ton...diesel ok......1 ton dually...mans truck LOL
thank you all for the precious inputs on
now I am really confused from information
but I have learned couple of good things by now, 5th Wheel towing is the way to go
turnoverball combined with Companion 5th Wheel Hitch is the way ill go
I will use the truck to commute daily from one place to the other drive to work and back
with empty bed and not towing I'd say 90% of the time (truck will not be used for work at all)
I will be towing my quad on a weekend basis loaded on the trucks bed
the other 10% will be towing a 5th Wheel 38ft toy hauler GVWR 12000 - 18000
once a year from NJ to CA park it there for two weeks and back to NJ
and couple weekends a year NJ to PA or NJ to Upstate NY at most
my trips will be for pleasure not business and rest of the time the toy hauler will be parked at my home
from all I have researched by now it appears the dually's add more stability when towing only
but most of the time when not towing they poses more difficulty then help
I feel for the amount of towing ill be doing they can be and
should be waved in my case for a more versatile truck day to day usage
like better Off-Road capabilities rain and snow stability and general more traction when not towing
I think I am going to go with - Ram 3500 4x4 CTD Quad-Cab SRW Short Bed
what do the esteem member of this forum think about my conclusion or am i missing somthing?
now I am really confused from information

but I have learned couple of good things by now, 5th Wheel towing is the way to go
turnoverball combined with Companion 5th Wheel Hitch is the way ill go
I will use the truck to commute daily from one place to the other drive to work and back
with empty bed and not towing I'd say 90% of the time (truck will not be used for work at all)
I will be towing my quad on a weekend basis loaded on the trucks bed
the other 10% will be towing a 5th Wheel 38ft toy hauler GVWR 12000 - 18000
once a year from NJ to CA park it there for two weeks and back to NJ
and couple weekends a year NJ to PA or NJ to Upstate NY at most

my trips will be for pleasure not business and rest of the time the toy hauler will be parked at my home
from all I have researched by now it appears the dually's add more stability when towing only
but most of the time when not towing they poses more difficulty then help
I feel for the amount of towing ill be doing they can be and
should be waved in my case for a more versatile truck day to day usage
like better Off-Road capabilities rain and snow stability and general more traction when not towing
I think I am going to go with - Ram 3500 4x4 CTD Quad-Cab SRW Short Bed

what do the esteem member of this forum think about my conclusion or am i missing somthing?
Originally posted by edwinsmith
When I got my truck I noticed the inside duals were more worn than the outside. I was told this is due to the hump in the middle of asphalt roads. I swapped the inners for the outers one side at a time and left the fronts alone since they have the most rubber. I also bumped my pressure up to 65 all the way around. Talk about needing a kidney transplant!
When I got my truck I noticed the inside duals were more worn than the outside. I was told this is due to the hump in the middle of asphalt roads. I swapped the inners for the outers one side at a time and left the fronts alone since they have the most rubber. I also bumped my pressure up to 65 all the way around. Talk about needing a kidney transplant!
Your inside rear tires are the set that tend to wear the least on a dually setup. The front tires on your truck (with all the meat) probably were rotated from the inside rear and vise-versa.
The fronts by far on a dually CTD take the worst beating.
Kninja,
I for one agree with your decision to go with the 2500, for the small amount of towing that you'll be doing and the relatively low wieght of your trailer the 3/4 ton truck will get it done.
But just so you're aware, 5th wheel towing with a short bed truck usually requires a slider type hitch for cab clearance during tight manuvures.
And by all means make sure you get the extended cab, it's so far on my past two trucks been worth double on the resale end than it added to the sticker cost.
Good luck with what ever you choose to go with.
I for one agree with your decision to go with the 2500, for the small amount of towing that you'll be doing and the relatively low wieght of your trailer the 3/4 ton truck will get it done.
But just so you're aware, 5th wheel towing with a short bed truck usually requires a slider type hitch for cab clearance during tight manuvures.
And by all means make sure you get the extended cab, it's so far on my past two trucks been worth double on the resale end than it added to the sticker cost.
Good luck with what ever you choose to go with.
Originally posted by PowerstrokeThis
With a dually if you have a blowout in the rear you still have a tire to get you to the nearest gas station.
With a dually if you have a blowout in the rear you still have a tire to get you to the nearest gas station.
On a trip from NY to VA, pulled into a rest stop and noticed one of my outer rear wheels looked a little low. Walked over and kicked it, flat as a pancake! Had no idea it was flat while driving down the interstate pulling my 5th wheel GCVW of 23k.
Definetly good insurance!
I have a dually 4x4 long bed. I will never go back to a smaller truck. I will never get rid of my goose neck trailer.....or go back to a tag.
I use my turn over ball all the time. I pul a 50 ft gooseneck, but I have moved (repoed) several 5th wheels using the b&w turn over ball to 5th adapter, and moved some friends 5ths when there fords or d maxs couldn t make te trip.
I think a 4x4 has a tighter turning radius, can t swear to it, but my quad , long bed dodge turns tighter then a short bed chevy.
I use my turn over ball all the time. I pul a 50 ft gooseneck, but I have moved (repoed) several 5th wheels using the b&w turn over ball to 5th adapter, and moved some friends 5ths when there fords or d maxs couldn t make te trip.
I think a 4x4 has a tighter turning radius, can t swear to it, but my quad , long bed dodge turns tighter then a short bed chevy.
SRW's are great! -- as long as you never tow with a DRW to compare. When and if you do, you'll figure out what you're missing.
It's very good to tow a 30 foot trailer over the Rockies and never really notice what's behind you. And yes, I've towed that same trailer over those same roads with a comparably equipped 2500 and a 3500. Sorry, the 2500 does the job, but can't compare.
Took me a month longer, but I learned how to park a 3500 4x4 in a parking stall intended for a Honda Accord. Nice thing about a lifted 3500 4x4 CTD is that people always make room for you.
It's very good to tow a 30 foot trailer over the Rockies and never really notice what's behind you. And yes, I've towed that same trailer over those same roads with a comparably equipped 2500 and a 3500. Sorry, the 2500 does the job, but can't compare.
Took me a month longer, but I learned how to park a 3500 4x4 in a parking stall intended for a Honda Accord. Nice thing about a lifted 3500 4x4 CTD is that people always make room for you.
I have issues!!! It seems those with s.r.w. want to proove a pt of owner ship, and those who have been around awhile and driven a couple mill miles and owned a few semis trks have to listen to "Why my srw wheel is as good ,well allmost as good as a dually.
Please someone say it,dont tip toe around, if your gonna use your trk for a trk and not a a burgerstand show off ,you need a dually. period
And the next rumor that keeps jumping up probly herd by so and so that duallys are unstable in snow and ice. Please put one to the test b4 you keep repeating what is not true!
They drive like bolted dwn,, and if you have the added bonus of 4 wd there is no doudt you will ever go back to a 4by4 .Now I am not talking about some jeep sluging trails-jeeps are for jeep trails.Thata my opinion and Ill prove it
Please someone say it,dont tip toe around, if your gonna use your trk for a trk and not a a burgerstand show off ,you need a dually. period
And the next rumor that keeps jumping up probly herd by so and so that duallys are unstable in snow and ice. Please put one to the test b4 you keep repeating what is not true!
They drive like bolted dwn,, and if you have the added bonus of 4 wd there is no doudt you will ever go back to a 4by4 .Now I am not talking about some jeep sluging trails-jeeps are for jeep trails.Thata my opinion and Ill prove it






