I just had a friend on the Montana Owners Club forum post this information, I guess there is someone on the Ford FTE forum that has this standing challange in regards to his Ford V10. I copied it and pasted it below. I guess he hasn't met a 6.7 yet.. Here is what he had to say!!!

I will make my challenge here in this thread also...

I will gladly accept ANY test of speed, strength, stopping, turing, dead weight haul, what ever the hell you can dream up as a test between my STOCK 3v V10 and ANY stock Diesel truck in the same weight class (1 ton 350 series, 3500 series whatever) And now that I have seen a LOT of 6.4s here in central Texas, I am confident to say ANY Stock diesel against my stock 415 CI 3v V10 4x4 4.30 zero modification F350

My friend has held off with his Diesel Purchase, waiting to see what will happen... I think the guy is only rowing with one oar!!! I just put this out there to let everyone know, there are people out there that have these thoughts running through their heads and the scary thing is that THEY VOTE TOO.. just posted as food for thought. ha ha ha

 

simple, how bout a test of how many gas stations they can pass?

 

I guarantee the V10 is no match against a diesel in heavy towing applications. A buddy of mine learned the hard way by cheaping out and getting a V10. That only lasted for about 6 months and then he traded for the 7.3L.

MikeyB

 

Bring it on!!! And a clear title to your truck

Should be able to get enough for a v10 sooperdoody to buy twins and stiks!

Although I think a diesel superduty of the same year should be used to prove this guy wrong.

 

Diesel Power mag just had an article in it where they compared the Ford 250 with the V10 vs. the Ford 250 with the new 6.4 diesel. The diesel (even the Ford) smoked it in almost every category. It was stock vs. stock.

This guy just doesn't know what he is talking about.

 

Careful with this one guys. As a former owner of a 250 V10 six speed with 4.30 gears I can speak to both sides of this one. My old Ford was fast and nibble unloaded. My Dodge definetly would take it in a towing test, but straight up unloaded I would put my money on the Ford. They rev high and the V10 really comes alive with the 4.30's. The auto behind the V10 is a dog. Loved the V10 but for what I'm towing now the Dodge is the only way to go. Just my $.02

 

Diesel engines are made for a reason: heavier applications. To do the job better. What is that guy thinking? I guess he's another one of those "one-sided" kind of person, can't be told anything without an argument.

 

i sent one home with its tail between its legs with my old truck a few weeks ago, i would gladly do it to him if he was closer to me, since he has more power than me i want to pick where we test at, somewhere about 5,000 feet elevation and lets see how that naturally aspirated V10 does against my forced induction cummins, that poor truck would be weezing so bad it wouldnt even be funny. , or how about this, we make it fair, since he paid probably 35K for his truck, i get to take 34,800 bucks and make up for the price difference in our trucks, i could build a 1000 horse motor and still buy another truck and trailer to haul it out there with. i would of even put my old V10 dodge up againt that pile of crap ford V10. only way to make a ford V10 run decent is to bolt a blower on it.

 

i work on a fleet of f450's & f350's with v10s, they are pieces of, wait a minute, i can't say that. they aren't very powerful even with a small load. i would much prefer my truck, and it is stock...i can pull alot of weight and pass alot more fueling stations..........they should install a zipper for the transmissions with as many as i have had to replace...have they fixed the do it yourself spark plug extraction trick the engine likes to do on the brand new ones????

 

whats this guy even thinking.Hes obviously driven a 6.0 or something

 

Heck, a mopar stock 180hp 318 is a towing monster with 4.30 gears!!

If I wanted to tow at 3K rpm and 7mpg, then this sounds like the dream setup.


I hope that Ford has redesigned the Triton V10 since I last had experience with it. In early 2000s (02, 03) they were gutless wonders that got terrible mileage.

The nice thing about a Cummins is you can actually maintain the speed limit without revving to the moon, and get reasonable mileage in many instances.

If Ford hasn't upgraded the engine, then this guy is a loon.

Then again, I'd assume Ford DID upgrade the engine, because no one is stupid enough to make such a claim about the V10s *I* drove!

Justin

 

This is a good article that compares gas powered 3/4 ton trucks (4x4 crew) and diesel powered duallies, towing and unloaded.

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/2007...out7milan.html

Pulling their test trailer the V10 Ford did the quarter mile in 23.37 seconds, and the diesel dodge pulled the trailer at 22.56 seconds...

The V10's performance empty was pretty similar to the Powerstoke empty, but when you look at the curve with both pulling the test trailer the Powerstroke is faster than the V10....

 

Hmm..so they need 4 extra cylinders to compete? I got my Dodge because it was the best truck for what I am doing, enjoying retirement!

 

It's apples-to-oranges.
Extra cylinders/displacement vs. 30+ psi of boost.
Compression ignition vs. spark.
Low-tech fuel vs. highly refined fuel
They're completely different animals.

Diesels provide:
- easier-to-access heavy-load performance (no need to rev)
- significantly reduced fuel consumption
- significantly longer engine life at high-load conditions

If any or all of these things are important to you, then diesels are the way to go.

It's easy to race loaded trucks up short hills, and get similar results.
Make those hills 10 miles long, perfrorm the tests hourly over a period of months or years, and see which engine lasts longest.

 

I too was going to reference the pickuptruck.com tests showing the v10 wasn't such a big, bad v10!