I know your supossed to use chains with a gooseneck, but the chains are scratching the heck out of my bed. Besides if that ball breaks those chains wont do anything but slow the trailor down. My question is why do you have to chain a gooseneck and not a 5vr?

 

Get a couple of old floor mats and cut a hole in the center and put under the chains - can't speak for OH but in TX, if it has chains, you better have them hooked up!!

 

Is a gooseneck a "ball-type" hitch? If so, chain it.

5th wheel (kingpin-type) hitches don't require chains because the regulators classify them as positive engagement hitches. That's also why some states allow people to ride in 5th wheel trailers and/or permit double-towing behind a 5th wheel trailer but not a gooseneck or conventional "bumper-pull" trailer - not that I would do either, but it's illustrative of how the regulatory authorities view the differences between the security and safety of the hitch designs.

Rusty

 

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...5&pagenumber=1

I know u posted on this forum,

Scroll down, i bring up goosenecks again..

I still agree with the safety chains issue, yes they scratch up your bed, but its gotta be done, better safe than sorry, i have a bed mat so i dont worry bout scratching.... So this leads me to question, how or why is a fifth wheel safer than a gooseneck? you mean to tell me it cannot pop out of the hitch? or the locking pin cannot come undone? it dont make any sence to me...

Tx

 

I have spring loaded U bolts through the bed.....installed with the b&w turn over. With my chains hooked up, then never touch the bed.I think even if they were not spring loaded, the right lenght chain would never touch. The idea of the chain is to atleast keep it in the bed.....till you get it stopped. Will it work? I hope I never find out. Isn t the typical GN rated for more weight then a 5th also?

Seems like I ve heard of alot of people not having there 5th wheel hitched up when they thought it was.....reason for a pull test, but can t recall any GN users making a similar mistake.

 

always chain them they do work!! they 5th wheel is set up like a semi they have a locking device that pinches around the kingpin and holds it better

 

My GN setup is very simular to a 5vr. The reciever sets over the ball with a spring loaded locking device that pinches around the ball, it then has a locking pin that holds it all in place. I've seen and pulled 5vr's before but I don't see much if any difference in safety with the style I have. Yes I agree with the safety chains. I have a picture of a semi that dropped his trailor in middle of the highway I'll try to post. This proved to me that yes kingpins can fail

 

I think the "chain the gooseneck for safety" is a carryover from the ball and bumper pull mentality,the legal beagles( our legislators), don't understand the difference and no one has taken the time to explain the difference.Our law makers don't spend a lot of time on the road pulling trailers, because if they did we wouldn't be using chains on gooseneck hitches.I have not lost a gooseneck in 40 years of pulling nor have I seen one come off,I lost count of the number of 5th wheels that have separated for what ever reason.

 

I really wouldn't rely on the wimpy little chains that come standard on a gooseneck to do alot for you. I think the tailgate would stand a better chance, myself.

That being said though, since they are on there, I attach them like I'm supposed to. I second the rubber mat comment. Many people feed the chains through rubber hose but I think this is a bad idea due to hiding the moisture and rust.

PISTOL

 

Try masking off a section around were chain lays and put some spray on bed liner down. I would not run with out mine, think what would happen if it came off going down a hill while you were breaking. I have never had one come off but the extra safety when going up a big hill or getting on the binders hard has sure made me feal better. It is hard to inspect the hitch in some areas and things do break our just wear out, having said that it has been along time since I have checked my emergence disconect system battery.

 

Great idea on the spray on liner. I cant afford to have the whole bed done, but can do on the chains

 

my neighbor is a rodeo stock promotor and he learned the hard way about not chaining his GN stock trailer. They popped a ball as they were moving seven bulls, at 1500 lbs each, from bucking shutes around to his semi. They crossed a ditch at to much of a angle and it forced, popped, the hitch right off the ball. The trailer slid right off the bed. You do not just unload seven bucking bulls very easy. Thats another story, but he does not move any thing with a ball without chains. Popping a ball happens quite often here in ranch/farm country........JIM

 

I use my logging chains, instead of the puny looking chains, most places sell. If it isn't rated 18000# or higher, I don't use it. That's Grade 80 chain.

 

you can try the grip dip stuff you are supposed to use on hand tools, liquid vinyl comes in a can ya dip in tools/ chain and you end up with that coated tool handle effect, I dipped my portable tree stand chain in that stuff 6 years ago to sop clangin while walking to post up, worked great on the chain still flexible but no clanging or wear in your use.

 

Been searching this forum for ideas but to no avail. So I ressurected this post.

I have a 1st gen which, being 15 years old, is limited to only a few options by what the manufacturers now offer for this frame/body style.

For a gooseneck hitch, I have a 5/8" plate welded across the top frame rails. The ball is of course attached to the plate. This set up doesn't provide for safety chain attachment. Anybody have ideas on making some anchors to attach the chain? I could weld loops to the plate but my GN ball screws out so I can have a flat surface, so welding to the plate isn't the prefered route.

Has anyone ever made loops that drop down flat when not in use (like they do on new hidden ball applications)? Anybody else have ideas, solutions, advice?

I don't like the idea of no safety chains . Right now I have a loop of chain around the ball that I can hook the safety chains to. This won't do any good if the ball fails and might not work if it was to hop off either, but its all I can think of until I find a better idea. Other than not hauling, but half the people say safety chains aren't need on a GN so...

Thanks for any insight,