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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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Fortunately, our hay is alfalfa. It is baled so tight you don't see much waste blowing off the load.....too darn expensive these days.
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Hey guys, this thread is about paying attention to max load and overload, please stay on topic, there is no need to start all sorts of arguments about different issues.
Start your own thread.
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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Sorry for the highjack.
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Recently I've seen many hauling huge loads on 24k goosenecks, but they are way overweight.
The max capacity of your trailer included the trailer weight also.
If you have 24,000lbs max, you can haul only 15,000/16,000lbs max, assuming trailer weight is approx 8,000lbs.

I see many hauling 18, 20 or more 5x5 round bales rated at 1,000lbs each (or more) on 22k or 24k trailers. That means you will be overweight by at least 3,000lbs.
What about the weight you put on the truck? If your loaded with hay you could easily have 5000 pin weight so a guy should be legal to haul 20, 1000 bales if the trailer is rated for 24K.
A person must also consider what the truck is licenced for.
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RAMRODD
What about the weight you put on the truck? If your loaded with hay you could easily have 5000 pin weight so a guy should be legal to haul 20, 1000 bales if the trailer is rated for 24K.
A person must also consider what the truck is licenced for.
I know it doesn't matter to some people but the GCWR for a 1 ton dually is 23,000 lbs. with a 16,000 lb. tow limit with a gooseneck . Duallies weigh around 8,000 by the time they are equipped with a hitch so you're talking being in excess of 30,000 lbs. which would require a CDL .
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RickG
I know it doesn't matter to some people but the GCWR for a 1 ton dually is 23,000 lbs. with a 16,000 lb. tow limit with a gooseneck . Duallies weigh around 8,000 by the time they are equipped with a hitch so you're talking being in excess of 30,000 lbs. which would require a CDL .
In ND a 14 year old can drive a 88K Semi 150 from home. It is legal as long as it is a private truck.
Same with a Pickup pulling a flatbed you can be over 30K with just a regular class D as long as it isn't commercial.
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RAMRODD
In ND a 14 year old can drive a 88K Semi 150 from home. It is legal as long as it is a private truck.
Same with a Pickup pulling a flatbed you can be over 30K with just a regular class D as long as it isn't commercial.
That's exactly where I saw the 2 overloaded pickups 2 weeks ago. I29 north of Grand Forks.....
They were stopped at the weight station and were unloading....
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RAMRODD
In ND a 14 year old can drive a 88K Semi 150 from home. It is legal as long as it is a private truck.
Same with a Pickup pulling a flatbed you can be over 30K with just a regular class D as long as it isn't commercial.
With the exception of a motor home or camper, what would qualify as non commercial? Farm trucks are being used for profit, that makes them commercial.
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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Here in NC famr trucks arent considered commercial, Even alot of log trucks run farm tags. Little side note on the tarp issue, easier to pay the $50 fine a few times a year than deal with the trouble of a tarp.

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With the exception of a motor home or camper, what would qualify as non commercial? Farm trucks are being used for profit, that makes them commercial.
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Valv
That's exactly where I saw the 2 overloaded pickups 2 weeks ago. I29 north of Grand Forks.....
They were stopped at the weight station and were unloading....
About a month ago I went past a truck check point by Jamestown I saw one officer point a me with 2 others looking. Never came after me, they must have just been looking at my rims
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by badme
With the exception of a motor home or camper, what would qualify as non commercial? Farm trucks are being used for profit, that makes them commercial.
In ND trucks are either Commercial or Farm. Your right about farm trucks being used for a profit. But as it stands now as long as your not for hire your not Commercial.
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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Same in sd on farm tags and farmers get 10% grace on weight comeing from the fields. Also depending on the trailer you can register for more weight if you stay off federal highways. Our kw and dropdeck is leagal to 86000 because of being a spread axle.
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