5th wheel or goose neck?
5th wheel or goose neck?
I am thinking ot buying an RV which is better a 5th wheel or a goose neck?
It seems likes a goose neck takes op a lot less room in the bed to I can haul my hunting stuff.
It seems likes a goose neck takes op a lot less room in the bed to I can haul my hunting stuff.
I don't know of any factory-built over-the-bed RV trailers that come with a goose-neck. I think most of them also will not warranty their trailer if you install a goose-neck adapter; they insist it puts a strain on the structure of the trailer that they didn't design for.
Regards, DBF
Regards, DBF
I have not heard of a GN camper either. One thing you may want to look into, instead of the fiver hitch, is getting a GN and a fiver adapter. This would allow you to remove the adpater and flip the ball over/remove it, depending on what kind of GN hitch you get.
Random search for an example:
http://www.2kstore.com/Convert/cball11.htm
Than again, you can get under-bed fith wheel setups, and those can accept a GN adapter if you ever need one, e.g.: http://hitchsales.com/Merchant2/merc...roduct_Count=0
Chris
Random search for an example:
http://www.2kstore.com/Convert/cball11.htm
Than again, you can get under-bed fith wheel setups, and those can accept a GN adapter if you ever need one, e.g.: http://hitchsales.com/Merchant2/merc...roduct_Count=0
Chris
The turn over hitches will have the GN ball on one side, and the pin on the other. Older 5th wheel hitches were on the trailers. The ones you get now need the 5th wheel in the bed and the pin on the trailer. The alternative is really a set of rails with either a 5th wheel hitch OR a GN ball that sits on the rails.
B&W hitch flip ball
I have not heard of a GN camper either. One thing you may want to look into, instead of the fiver hitch, is getting a GN and a fiver adapter. This would allow you to remove the adpater and flip the ball over/remove it, depending on what kind of GN hitch you get.
Random search for an example:
http://www.2kstore.com/Convert/cball11.htm
Than again, you can get under-bed fith wheel setups, and those can accept a GN adapter if you ever need one, e.g.: http://hitchsales.com/Merchant2/merc...roduct_Count=0
Chris
Random search for an example:
http://www.2kstore.com/Convert/cball11.htm
Than again, you can get under-bed fith wheel setups, and those can accept a GN adapter if you ever need one, e.g.: http://hitchsales.com/Merchant2/merc...roduct_Count=0
Chris
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You have to be very careful trying to mount a gooseneck adapter on a fifth wheel. Most of them are not designed for the additional strain but on them framing with a gooseneck setup. Many manufacturers will void their warranty if a gooseneck is used. I have gone thru the agony of repairing the framing at the fiver pin - - not fun. In fact, it made such a believer out of me I will never haul again without an air hitch.
Bob
Bob
My cousin bought a Montana 5th wheel trailer. At the time of the purchase the dealer converted it to a goose neck for him. He did not mention anything about the warranty being voided. I'm sure that if it was going to void the warranty that he would not have chanced it with a 40k trailer.
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All the RV trailer dealers we've looked at have 5th wheel. WeekEnd Warrior will add a goose if you want. they are the only one I know of.
With the newer double pivot 5th wheel hitches I guess I'd stay with the 5th wheel. My biggest complaint with the 5th wh is that you have to make sure it is locked. If it isn't and you dump the trailer in the bed, it's history. You really need to give a tug before raising the landing gear all the way.
It is less expensive to get a high capacity goose rather than a high capacity 5th wh.
The big advantage is that you can have a clean bed easily. Countering however you can remove the hole 5th wh leaving it attached to the trailer and just leave the rails in the bed.
I'd go with the 5th wh for a travel trailer just so it is easier to sell in the end.
I asked the same question a while ago. I'm convinced. However the race car trailer will still have the goose. haha
Easier to sell a racecar trailer with a goose.
With the newer double pivot 5th wheel hitches I guess I'd stay with the 5th wheel. My biggest complaint with the 5th wh is that you have to make sure it is locked. If it isn't and you dump the trailer in the bed, it's history. You really need to give a tug before raising the landing gear all the way.
It is less expensive to get a high capacity goose rather than a high capacity 5th wh.
The big advantage is that you can have a clean bed easily. Countering however you can remove the hole 5th wh leaving it attached to the trailer and just leave the rails in the bed.
I'd go with the 5th wh for a travel trailer just so it is easier to sell in the end.
I asked the same question a while ago. I'm convinced. However the race car trailer will still have the goose. haha
Easier to sell a racecar trailer with a goose.
Why hasn/t any RV company made an Rv like a con-ex container. lower the jacks and drive and you have a flat bed trailer.
It seems most RV owners are likely to have another trail. Why go through the expense of 2 trailers?
It seems most RV owners are likely to have another trail. Why go through the expense of 2 trailers?
Nice Idea but as with any changes other things have to change. The water tanks are mostly installed in the frame, there would be height issues I am sure to make it all happen, plus of course you would probably end up paying just as much extra as the trailer part would have to have a strong enough floor be on its own, then there is the weight issues. I kiinda did that when I first was married, I have a 1/2 truck and access to a huge truck camper that needed a dually, so I put it on my 16 car hauler, worked quite nice for the wife and I with only 2 kids. Small kids camping farily close to home, very redneck but we have lots of fun pictures of good family time.
I'd also avoid the 5th wheel to goose converters, unless I got something in writing from the frame maker that said it's OK and covered on warranty.
There are toy haulers built on goose neck cargo trailers, but often the tank size is limited, and the furnature is often folding plywood benches with cushions (not a substitute for a real sofa).
I really like my B&W setup. If I need to pull a goose neck, I'm all set, and when I don't need the 5th wheel hitch I've got a flat bed with no rails sticking up.
It also pivots 4 ways, has a good range of vertical and fore/aft adjustability, and it's easy to see and check that the jaws are locked around the groove of the pin.
The only downsides are that it requires tools to remove/install, but it only takes a couple minutes and I keep a socket set and torque wrench in the truck anyway.
That said, next time I'd be getting an air ride hitch.
This photo kind of shows how the B&W hitch mounts to the goose ball socket.
There are toy haulers built on goose neck cargo trailers, but often the tank size is limited, and the furnature is often folding plywood benches with cushions (not a substitute for a real sofa).
I really like my B&W setup. If I need to pull a goose neck, I'm all set, and when I don't need the 5th wheel hitch I've got a flat bed with no rails sticking up.
It also pivots 4 ways, has a good range of vertical and fore/aft adjustability, and it's easy to see and check that the jaws are locked around the groove of the pin.
The only downsides are that it requires tools to remove/install, but it only takes a couple minutes and I keep a socket set and torque wrench in the truck anyway.
That said, next time I'd be getting an air ride hitch.
This photo kind of shows how the B&W hitch mounts to the goose ball socket.
Thats a nice looking product. But looking for it online I see its over 600 bucks and then you still have to have the under mount ball hitch first. I am looking at installing a fifth wheel this winter as i just purchased a trailer, my plan is to either weld the nuts under the truck or bend flat bar to make a system to keep the nuts under the truck so I can remove the rails from the top with a impact quickly. I need a flat bed for work rails in there are a pain. Nice part is I have a few months to work out my problems and shop for what I need.
Thats a nice looking product. But looking for it online I see its over 600 bucks and then you still have to have the under mount ball hitch first. I am looking at installing a fifth wheel this winter as i just purchased a trailer, my plan is to either weld the nuts under the truck or bend flat bar to make a system to keep the nuts under the truck so I can remove the rails from the top with a impact quickly. I need a flat bed for work rails in there are a pain. Nice part is I have a few months to work out my problems and shop for what I need.
Search for "B&W hitches" on the web. They make a flip over ball GN hitch, and a 5th wheel hitch that mounts to the GN ball socket. Great combo! The hitch is flush with bed when not in use. Very nicely manufactured. I have a gooseneck for the tractor and the 5th for an RV. Both are rated at 18K# for towing.
I have a narrow DSP 5ver hitch. The rails run from front to rear and are only 3/4 inch high. When I need a flat box I just throw in a 4X8 sheet of 3/4 plywood right over the rails.



