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Old 02-07-2011, 07:31 AM
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17.5" tandem singles vs tandem dually 16"

We just bought a 28' Delta lo pro tandem dually. I haven't towed it yet but my dad has and it pulls quite a bit heavier than our triaxle 25' that we had before. In a google search for something else I came across a manufacturer advertising a trailer with 17.5" tires rated for 6000lbs. So a you could have either 10 or 12,000 lb axles and only 4 tires instead of 8. They claimed it pulled way easier. The tires were load range J inflate to 125psi. Does anyone have a trailer like this? The axles shouldn't be much different in price but how about the tires/rims? The tires should wear better and last longer I would think. You might save a little weight as well. If I was to order another trailer I would definitely look into it.
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The dual tandems are nice in some ways, but definitely increase the tendency to sway do to the decrease in suspension distance (frame width). Several friends have a Newmar fiver with the tandems and commented about the increase sway. I would opt for dual axles, single wheels and make the axles and tires rated for what you need rather than triple axles or duallies.

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I ran the 17.5's on a low boy in a dual tandem configuration. The tires are load rated at 126 psi. The problem I had was at 50% tread wear I had to replace them because they tended to separate. You'll also be in the $200+ a tire range.
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That would be a pain to only run them to 50% tread. We run our trailer tires quite low on tread. They tend to wear in the center more as you tend to be loaded half the time thus the inflation pressure is too high. Like everything, nothing is the "answer or perfect.
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we tried the 17.5 on a trailer we had and let me say this the 17.5 LRJ are heavy and when one comes apart it did 3x the damage to the trailer then the 16" load range E ,
we had the 2x6 boards and a frame cross member pulled out from behind the wheel and Like was said earlier, at 50% some of them would separate .personally I have noticed very little sway with the dual tandems and when you blow a tire your not dragging a wheel you can get off the road or slow down to get to a tire shop
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I have a trailer just over a year old now that has a 2 16K axles with 17.5's dualled up. I love the setup

I would like to see more details about this trailer manufactures set up. I have never seen a 10K or a 12K designed to run a single tire. I am just picturing a trailer with it frame moved in to leave room for duals but you just run a standered rim.

The other thing when I orderd my trailer If I wanted 17.5's I had to go to a 10 bolt 15 or 16K axle. The 12K only came with 8 studs.

About the 17.5's coming apart at 50% tread. I have had the same thing happen to 16 inch load E tires. I have had some sets of tires where every tire made it down to the wire. I bought a new flatbed with super trooper tires, off brand junk replace 8 tires in less then a year.
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The Trailer manufacturer is Wilraymfg out of Fort Benton,MT. If you do a search on axles you can get 8 bolt 17.5" rims for 8000lb axles. I am not sure if the 8 bolt rims are rated for 6000lbs. They say the tires are rated for 6000. That the rims have to be 10 bolt makes sense as the 17.5"'s are rated the same as larger 22.5 and 24.5 tires.
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I don't know what I think of that setup. It could be a good HD wheel tire solution to a 8K axil. Personaly I wouldn't consider it unless you can get a rim that matches the tire rating bolted on to atleast a 10K axil
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Take 3 does a super single set up. 2 10k axles spread with 17.5's.
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nice truck and trailer haulin, that yours?
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