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What makes Powerstroke Turbo's So Loud?!?

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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:48 PM
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What makes Powerstroke Turbo's So Loud?!?

Hey I heard a powerstroke go by today and no it wasnt the sound of the motor that caught my attention like our rigs but rather the awesome loudness and sing of the turbo! What makes their turbos so loud? I Kinda like it and was wondering how that could be achieved with our turbo's, if it could anyway? Thanks
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 98ISURAM
Hey I heard a powerstroke go by today and no it wasnt the sound of the motor that caught my attention like our rigs but rather the awesome loudness and sing of the turbo! What makes their turbos so loud? I Kinda like it and was wondering how that could be achieved with our turbo's, if it could anyway? Thanks
Ball bearings...
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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My guess would be the V8 engine configuration and the 7 + liter dislplacement.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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expound on ball bearings...
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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What makes Powerstroke Turbo's So Loud?!?

because the engine sounds so weak.


ball bearing turbos use small ball bearings in the center section to support the shaft, where most other turbos use plain bearings(like bushings) to support the shaft and basically ride on a cushion of lube oil. bb turbos spool up quicker due to the decreased friction, they are more forgiving to hot shutdowns, and they are more expensive.

also, another reason their turbos are so loud is that they are variable geometry.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 11:21 PM
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also, another reason their turbos are so loud is that they are variable geometry.
Not all of 'em
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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Vgt Vgt Vgt
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 02:13 AM
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So what size are the fords turbos, would it work on a cummins?
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 03:10 AM
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You can get bb turbos on a Cummins. My boss said when his quits he is going bb.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 03:52 AM
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Vgt Vgt Vgt
Correct, this is why they sound as if they are at full spool just lightly coming off of a light, because for the most part they are. I wish more car manufactuers would play around with variable geometry technology.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 08:25 AM
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Actually, Ford uses a VVT Garrett...or Variable Vane. There are small vanes in the housing that open to make it smaller or close to make it bigger. Works good when it works, but lots of moving parts that stick and quit working! Ask a 6.0 owner how many times his turbo has "quit working," most of them had!

Holset's solution to VGT is called a sliding collar design...basically there is a collar inside the exhaust housing that slides closed and closes off part of the housing. 1 moving part, and not as susceptible to sooting up and fouling. Also works just as well!


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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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The 6.0 on our ambulance (I no longer work there) had to go in a few times with only 5000 miles on it because of the turbo. It was getting plugged up with carbon and wouldn't work properly.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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i agree and the only bad thing is it cost just as much as a brand new one to fix it if the bearings go out. very very very $$$$$$$$$$$$ to fix. if the bearings go bad for some reason, mine as well throw it away and buy a new one.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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from everything ive heard, they are so loud because they are about to blow up
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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I read somewhere the new 6.7 cummins with a variable turbo??
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