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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Question on fuel filter lid & fuel pressure guage

This may be kind of a dumb question, but I was wondering how you guys plumbed your fuel pressure line into the top of the filter lid. Now it's not hard at all to screw a fitting in to the top, but how do you have it setup to pull the lid when you change your filter?

I haven't got it completely hooked up yet, but I've got a braided line to run straight from the guage to the filter lid, with a needle valve and swivel connection at the filter so I can close the valve and disconnect the line when I change my filter.

Basically just wondering if anyone had a better setup or a better idea. I was thinking quick-connects, but couldn't find them in 1/8" and didn't want to add any more fittings to the system.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Buy a tapped banjo bolt and put it in the bottom of the filter housing.
Remove the stock banjo bolt, screw in the tapped banjo bolt, re-install the factory line and attatch the plumbing for your FP gauge. No need to mess with the lid.
Here's a link for reference........http://www.vulcanperformance.com/ban...ss-p/tbblt.htm
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hink
Buy a tapped banjo bolt and put it in the bottom of the filter housing.
Remove the stock banjo bolt, screw in the tapped banjo bolt, re-install the factory line and attatch the plumbing for your FP gauge. No need to mess with the lid.
Here's a link for reference........http://www.vulcanperformance.com/ban...ss-p/tbblt.htm
What about all the dirt that collects on the bottom of the canister, wouldn't that clog up line?
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hink
Buy a tapped banjo bolt and put it in the bottom of the filter housing.
Remove the stock banjo bolt, screw in the tapped banjo bolt, re-install the factory line and attatch the plumbing for your FP gauge. No need to mess with the lid.
Here's a link for reference........http://www.vulcanperformance.com/ban...ss-p/tbblt.htm
Heres a pic - thanks to Moose10 this is on an 01 (dont forget the needle valve):






Back to the original question - heres a few more pics from the site (I believe both these trucks are 99's):



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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver R/T
What about all the dirt that collects on the bottom of the canister, wouldn't that clog up line?
That dirt does not enter the outlet to the IP.

Now after reading Dr. Evil's post (which is a good one BTW), I realize I was off base on my post. I forgot that some years had the outlet on the top.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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That's correct. My 98.5 has two NPT fittings on the lid, one inside the filter and one outside the filter. I thin kit is 2000+ that switched to a plastic lid, and one needs to use a tapped banjo on the bottom of those.
BTW, I tapped my own banjo bolt without any problems using a bottoming 1/8" NPT tap and drilling to 21/64".
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Thanks for the replys.

I've got a 2000, and I've got 2 options. I've got a filter lid from Geno's with the 1/8" port on top and I've also got a spare tapped banjo bolt. I was looking at using the filter lid port just because it's a whole lot easier to get to. I can barely reach the banjo on the bottom, much less getting wrenches on and not messing anything up. The only thing I don't like about the filter lid is if I had to undo the line every time I change a filter. I haven't changed the filter in a while and it's due. I can't remember how many turns it takes before it comes loose, that's why I was thinking of using the swivel connection.

The reason I want to use the filter housing is because the braided line I have is long enough to reach it, but won't reach the injection pump. I also have my low fuel light sender on the IP and want to leave it there as a kind of visual backup. Trying to do this as simple as possible with the least amount of connections to possibly leak down the road...
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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I did not have any issues replacing the bottom banjo bolt with a tapped one. Right, you can't see it and have to work by touch but it is not too bad. I liked that option on my friend's truck because he had no Geno's lid anyway.
If you use a good quality fitting for the line on Geno's lid, taking it off for filter changes will be a painless deal as it is so accessible. Crappy fittings such as Parkers have potential to kink on the flex line after a while. If you use Swagelok you can take it off and put back on as many times as you want and it will not leak.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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Well, I just got it done last night. Decided to go with the banjo on the bottom, pain in the neck to get to, but hopefully I won't ever have to touch it again.

The setup I used was a 90 out of the banjo bolt into a needle valve, then ran a braided line out of that, through the firewall and straight into the guage.
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