Quad Adrenaline Beta Testing....
01-26-2008, 10:10 AM
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Paul,
Did it still surge on PL01?? That is something that is giving me fits. We are doing timing only on PL01 and the last tune I sent you has ZERO timing, so essentially PL01 should be identical to PL00.
Now, if the surging was just on level PL02 and up I can see that and I think I can fix it. If it is still surging on PL01 then I am at a loss. Nothing should be happening on that last tune in PL01.
Did it still surge on PL01?? That is something that is giving me fits. We are doing timing only on PL01 and the last tune I sent you has ZERO timing, so essentially PL01 should be identical to PL00.
Now, if the surging was just on level PL02 and up I can see that and I think I can fix it. If it is still surging on PL01 then I am at a loss. Nothing should be happening on that last tune in PL01.
Paul
01-26-2008, 10:11 AM
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01-26-2008, 11:24 AM
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Quad,
Just got back from a short highway trip with the last file you sent me. I cant believe this is the same truck. This was the first time I have been able to use my cruise control with the Adrenaline turned on. Imagine the smile on my face if you will. This file must also still have the delayed timing, because it feels like a shot of nitrous at about 1800-1900 rpm's. Seems like this file just all around pulls harder than the previous ones, kind of like one of the original aggressive files. I do hope Paul has the same luck as I have. I dont know if you get tired of hearing this, but keep up the GREAT work. Much appreciate all of your effort.
Terry
Just got back from a short highway trip with the last file you sent me. I cant believe this is the same truck. This was the first time I have been able to use my cruise control with the Adrenaline turned on. Imagine the smile on my face if you will. This file must also still have the delayed timing, because it feels like a shot of nitrous at about 1800-1900 rpm's. Seems like this file just all around pulls harder than the previous ones, kind of like one of the original aggressive files. I do hope Paul has the same luck as I have. I dont know if you get tired of hearing this, but keep up the GREAT work. Much appreciate all of your effort.
Terry
01-26-2008, 02:26 PM
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I've been running this new box all day and so far no TT issues, (about 7-8 starts) a bunch more smoke on the bottom, a quicker jump of the EGT's and with a noticeable loss of responsiveness on the bottom as well. I can't seem to find any surging though mine was minimal to begin with and I'll be installing some Mach II's next week but I don't really consider them big injectors.
In my opinion the trucks that are closer to stock benefit from more timing down low to help clean up the smoke and aide in throttle response...there may also be a little lower EGT though it never got hot enough in lower power levels to worry about.
In my opinion the trucks that are closer to stock benefit from more timing down low to help clean up the smoke and aide in throttle response...there may also be a little lower EGT though it never got hot enough in lower power levels to worry about.
01-26-2008, 03:21 PM
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It did still surge in PL01 at my house.
Just got back from a short highway trip with the last file you sent me. I cant believe this is the same truck. This was the first time I have been able to use my cruise control with the Adrenaline turned on. Imagine the smile on my face if you will. This file must also still have the delayed timing, because it feels like a shot of nitrous at about 1800-1900 rpm's. Seems like this file just all around pulls harder than the previous ones, kind of like one of the original aggressive files. I do hope Paul has the same luck as I have. I dont know if you get tired of hearing this, but keep up the GREAT work. Much appreciate all of your effort.
Terry
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Quad, ten more perfect shutdowns. You fixed it!
I've been running this new box all day and so far no TT issues, (about 7-8 starts) a bunch more smoke on the bottom, a quicker jump of the EGT's and with a noticeable loss of responsiveness on the bottom as well. I can't seem to find any surging though mine was minimal to begin with and I'll be installing some Mach II's next week but I don't really consider them big injectors.
In my opinion the trucks that are closer to stock benefit from more timing down low to help clean up the smoke and aide in throttle response...there may also be a little lower EGT though it never got hot enough in lower power levels to worry about.
In my opinion the trucks that are closer to stock benefit from more timing down low to help clean up the smoke and aide in throttle response...there may also be a little lower EGT though it never got hot enough in lower power levels to worry about.
Production units will most likely end up with the software that Wurkenman has. Everything else will be more aggressive!
I am working to send a group email so that we can let everyone try this file and try this file in an aggressive format.
01-26-2008, 03:35 PM
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I think that we will have some alternate tuning for 5spd and auto trucks. You can get much more aggressive with the manual trucks for some reason?? I think you're right about that, I've never had unmanageable surging.
Production units will most likely end up with the software that Wurkenman has. Everything else will be more aggressive!
I am working to send a group email so that we can let everyone try this file and try this file in an aggressive format. Would you be surprised to hear that we'd be looking forward to that!?!?
Production units will most likely end up with the software that Wurkenman has. Everything else will be more aggressive!
I am working to send a group email so that we can let everyone try this file and try this file in an aggressive format. Would you be surprised to hear that we'd be looking forward to that!?!?
01-26-2008, 04:09 PM
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washington state. do not pass go, just collect an arrest warrant and 5 days in jail for 119mph. this is why i was glad i had JUST switched seats to grab some sleep. my buddy got stung hard. your lucky!
01-26-2008, 04:12 PM
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01-26-2008, 04:48 PM
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Quad, more perfect shutdowns, I am sure that it is fixed.
I get zero surging.
*IDEA*
Manual trucks cannot be driven in any of the problem RPM ranges due to the solid connection between motor and wheels. At 1700 rpm, when i get off the throttle, truck decelerates so fast it is impossible to get it to surge under light throttle cause it takes 1/8 throttle or more just to maintain 1700.
Auto trucks on the other hand have fluid coupling so they can essentially coast or lightly decelerate at 1700 rpm. And then due to fluid coupling once again, can load the motor with light throttle and cause the surge.
I can only get my truck to surge with Edge Products, Adrenaline, or Stock when I'm doing 800 rpm in 5th gear and give it very light throttle. This essentially creates the same scenario as the auto.
So to sum it all up:
Manual truck: let off throttle=rapid deceleration and 1/8 throttle or more to maintain.
Auto truck: let off throttle=coast or slight deceleration and 1/100 throttle to load up motor and possibly get surge or maintain.
I would venture to say that when an auto is in lockup, surging is nearly impossible since it takes more than very light throttle to keep working/loading the motor.
I get zero surging.
*IDEA*
Manual trucks cannot be driven in any of the problem RPM ranges due to the solid connection between motor and wheels. At 1700 rpm, when i get off the throttle, truck decelerates so fast it is impossible to get it to surge under light throttle cause it takes 1/8 throttle or more just to maintain 1700.
Auto trucks on the other hand have fluid coupling so they can essentially coast or lightly decelerate at 1700 rpm. And then due to fluid coupling once again, can load the motor with light throttle and cause the surge.
I can only get my truck to surge with Edge Products, Adrenaline, or Stock when I'm doing 800 rpm in 5th gear and give it very light throttle. This essentially creates the same scenario as the auto.
So to sum it all up:
Manual truck: let off throttle=rapid deceleration and 1/8 throttle or more to maintain.
Auto truck: let off throttle=coast or slight deceleration and 1/100 throttle to load up motor and possibly get surge or maintain.
I would venture to say that when an auto is in lockup, surging is nearly impossible since it takes more than very light throttle to keep working/loading the motor.
01-26-2008, 08:28 PM
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I really like the latest download that was emailed out today. I loaded the aggressive tune and it works very well on my truck, slight surging but hardly noticeable really, great power compared to any of the previous tunes I have tested so far. Things are looking great.
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01-26-2008, 08:57 PM
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Latest update (haven't had the chance yet to load the new file sent today) I was out a couple of hours tonight and still no TT issues, no surging either...but...the last 3 times I started the truck the "warm up safety" that keeps the box from heavier fueling didn't work at all...all 3 times I started the truck it was on PL03 where I keep it for tooling around town and yes it was fueling for sure...
01-26-2008, 09:00 PM
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The warm up fixes are all on the Beta3 tunes. You are probably running the Beta2 stuff. The last email addresses the Beta3 warm up fixes.
I did not send it to you earlier because I wanted to stay on the same software and make sure we had the TT fixed up!
I did not send it to you earlier because I wanted to stay on the same software and make sure we had the TT fixed up!