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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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Hey Quad, would the high hp box work stacked with the Edge Comp? I dont have sticks yet but I dont want to have any of this shudder all these guys are talking about...
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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So quad whats the delio with this box........
Well, I am not sure we even have this one back yet! We have to change the tuning in it slightly to fix the light throttle problem and then we should be good to go. We fixed it on the XZT+ boxes pretty easily so I am expecting this to be the same.

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I have one of the new lower hp boxs and it runs good. I have the surge from the Inj. but thay are sending me a new box soon. I cant wait, with my stage 3 inj and the banks box stacked with the Quad box this thing is for shure a 15 sec truck. I will be going to the track soon with the rain and work I just havent had a chance yet. It fuels hard if you matt it but if you are easy on the Go Pedal it does not smoke. And my goal now is to dump the banks stuff and try and get the new higher HP box. I can not comment on fuel mileage yet I can tell you my right rear corner of my truck dodge painted white but know it is Black.
Should be completely fixed now! We are waiting on batch #2 to go and this batch will have the USB working so no more sending them back and forth!

ok this box sounds awesome! but........with my set up ( i know i need a clutch) is all that fueling to much for me right now? Im guessing it is because i have nearly stock everything as in head gaskets valve springs and so on and so forth what all would i need to do to be able to be ok with this box?

Sorry for all the questions just really wish i could try this one out.
You will be fine. Most likely certain "wild" programs like to fuel over 4K and stuff like that will not come stock on the module, you will need to download them.

Is there's any way you could allow this box to hook up to a laptop for in home tuning?
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Yes, but it will be something that happens later.

Stacking Banks Ottomind with ANY box that advances timing is a recipe for melted pistons!!!!!

DO NOT STACK WITH OTTOMIND CONNECTED.
Not true. The Ottomind is a fueling module. For that matter I am not even sure Banks makes it. I know for a fact that someone else used to make it for them and it was a fueling only box then as well. The XZT+ and a fueling only box should be pretty wicked. SHould be like stacking a Smarty but, getting the upper and as well since we keep fueling.
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo6guy
Hey Quad, would the high hp box work stacked with the Edge Comp? I dont have sticks yet but I dont want to have any of this shudder all these guys are talking about...
Nope it won' work with them. The Comp is also a fueling/timing box.

The shudder these guys are talking about will not be there in production. You have to remember that the Race box is an "alpha" box and that is why we do these sorts of things.

This shuddering is totally different than the TST shudder you read about. This is from instant fueling. We chilled it out ever so slightly and fixed it!

I really do not think a lot of people understand when I say it fuels hard instantly. I mean it fuels really hard and the second you give it a little pedal.

It is unique because we are monitoring so many things like load, TPS and stuff that no one looks at. So we can look at your TPS and Load% along with boost and know if you are flooring it, hit a light inlcine or what you are doing. So we can look at what you are doing and fuel based on what is happening.
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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I really do not think a lot of people understand when I say it fuels hard instantly. I mean it fuels really hard and the second you give it a little pedal.

It is unique because we are monitoring so many things like load, TPS and stuff that no one looks at. So we can look at your TPS and Load% along with boost and know if you are flooring it, hit a light inlcine or what you are doing. So we can look at what you are doing and fuel based on what is happening.
He's not lying when he says it fuels right now. It's definately a stronger box on the bottom end than my TST/Smarty.

Quad, I don't know if you got my message yesterday but I dropped the box off with UPS yesterday so it should have shipped today so you should have it tomorrow. Let me know. I got my new injection pump on last night so it's prime and ready for a thrashing.
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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I am finally holding it! It should go back out to you today or tomorrow.
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Awesome!!! I can't wait. Sorry it's taken so long but our UPS guy apparently can't read.
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Well, I am not sure we even have this one back yet! We have to change the tuning in it slightly to fix the light throttle problem and then we should be good to go. We fixed it on the XZT+ boxes pretty easily so I am expecting this to be the same.

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Should be completely fixed now! We are waiting on batch #2 to go and this batch will have the USB working so no more sending them back and forth!



You will be fine. Most likely certain "wild" programs like to fuel over 4K and stuff like that will not come stock on the module, you will need to download them.





Not true. The Ottomind is a fueling module. For that matter I am not even sure Banks makes it. I know for a fact that someone else used to make it for them and it was a fueling only box then as well. The XZT+ and a fueling only box should be pretty wicked. SHould be like stacking a Smarty but, getting the upper and as well since we keep fueling.

Good to know. I'm going by rusty memory of a gent on here a few years ago that lost an engine with an Ottomind and an EZ....

If the Otto does no timing, then it should be ok, I'd assume...
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Went to the track truck ran 16.17 on both boxes and 16.61 on just the Quad box on full tilt this is in my work truck wich is a dually with all my tools and spare fuel tank in bed and the back seat full of catalogs and service manuals. I did not do any boosted launch nor did I use 4X4 to leave the line. I did not spin the tires it's best 60 ft was 2.47 on both boxes with a 2.55 with only the Quad box on. I was going to do more pass stock and with the banks and then more with both boxes but the rain came. And I do belive it will run a 15 sec pass as I only ran one pass with it stacked.
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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So stacking the banks with the quad 120hp box dropped your ET's by .44 sec and dropped your 60's by .08 sec? That's pretty impressive.
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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No I have the new smaller box 70 hp model I want to get the larger box and do away with the banks all together.
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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I would say that is not bad considering you weren't launching or anything. I also think it shows the low end of the XZT when stacking a straight fueling box only make a minimal difference in 0-60 ft times. Obviously it helps because it can fuel a lot more throughout the band but, the XZT+ is fueling pretty hard down low by itself!

BigBlue,

Your box shipped out today and has the USB enabled on it right now. The shuddering should be fixed at light throttle now. If not we are a simple email away from changing it again! I dropped a USB cable in the package as well!
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Awesome quad!!! I have tomorrow off from school and work so I'll be able to really play with it. Thanks a lot!!!
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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USB chip!! That is so sweet!!! Any idea on price range?? Thanks Qzilla...
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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USB chip!! That is so sweet!!! Any idea on price range?? Thanks Qzilla...
It gets better but, we still have a little work to do before we talk about what all we are going to be able to do!!!!

Price will be slightly more than a Comp on the retail side, maybe about the same? This is for the base box and then with the Commander it will be similar in price to the Juice/Att.

Remember that the base box has built in EGT, Boost, Trans, and FP gauges too!
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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I'm not really interesting in guage functions-- just HP.

Will that be an option for me?



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