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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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k&n vs bhaf

will the bhaf flow more air then the k&n orderd mine today
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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can't say for sure, but it will for sure flow less oil into your intake!
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 01:30 AM
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Which K&N?

OEM Brick type? Cone type? Specifics are good here.

The K&N will likely flow more than a BHAF. Its a toss up....you have flow or you have filtering. If you want to increase on one of those you have to give up on the other.

That being said, I took the K&N off of my truck and its not going back on.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
Which K&N?

OEM Brick type? Cone type? Specifics are good here.

The K&N will likely flow more than a BHAF. Its a toss up....you have flow or you have filtering. If you want to increase on one of those you have to give up on the other.

That being said, I took the K&N off of my truck and its not going back on.
and that's how they can give people their million mile warranty. i do run one on my vw powered rail but would never consider it an option for the cummins. there is a lot of sand that gets through it and it's very apparent when you look at the compressor wheel on the rail turbo.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 04:49 AM
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BHAF all the way.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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Sand goes through it??? Why in the heck would you leave it on that expensive toy? I'm callin BS. If you had sand going through your filter, you would change it, or the motor in one tank of gas.

I once ran a die hard honda four stroke 250 XL at the dunes and one of the beginners wrecked it while I was out playing with the real bikes. The filter element jarred loose and it started to suck sand. By the time I got back from my ride, hours later, I noticed that the camp bike POS trainer... was blowing lots of smoke and so I hopped on it, way down on power. The bike was worthless in my opinion so I let them continue to ride it and by the time we left later that day, it was seized up. Sand kills motors fast! When I got home, i pulled the side cover and saw that the element had jarred loose and the intake was littered with sand.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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My 97 had a K&N cone type filter, about 16" long, on it when I bought it. I traded my buddy a BHAF for the K&N. His 95 PSD repsonded very well to it, and the fit was much better than the BHAF. I think the BHAF quieted the turbo whistle on my truck, but I don't feel that I lost much, if any, power. I will stick with the BHAF, it may not flow the CFM, but it filters ALOT better.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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iv had my k&n on for 3 years and it keeps egnough out just make sure to clean and oil it and you will be fine. the bhaf is paper so you filter a little better, just depends on what you want
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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K&N was the only filter company that could filter the sand from going into the helicopter engines, during the Gulf war. If it is good for the aviators it is good for me. I have had mine on for about 30,000 miles and no problems.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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K&N was the only filter company that could filter the sand from going into the helicopter engines, during the Gulf war. If it is good for the aviators it is good for me. I have had mine on for about 30,000 miles and no problems.
Clayten, do you have a helicopter engine in your truck? That must be cool.

Joking aside, just because they use it on a helicopter doesnt necessarily mean that the filter is any good. I could be wrong (some of you guys in the Gulf will be able to correct me on this) but I would suspect that military vehicles (including helicopters) dont always get the best maintenance. If something wears out or simply quits working - they just get a new one.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Doc I was afraid you movin to the north would impair you. My engine sounds like a helicopter engine when it is spooling up. The thing about a helicopter engine is ya just don't want it to quit when your out and about. Pulling over to the side of the sky to lift the hood just doesn't work. I believe helicopters are in the area of 10 hour maintenance to 1 hour of flight time. The thing is when a helicopter quits running after take off good chances are there will be a new one and a new everything else including the crew and passengers.
Doc I think you should rub garlic and sausage on your forehead to help with effects of the new latitude. And not just any sausage some of that home made stuff that is every house in the neighborhood.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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ok then....Clayten buddy, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. That post broke on of my rules anyway......wansnt going to say anything bad about K&N anymore
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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k&n recall

Originally Posted by Big Blue24
Sand goes through it??? Why in the heck would you leave it on that expensive toy? I'm callin BS. If you had sand going through your filter, you would change it, or the motor in one tank of gas.

I once ran a die hard honda four stroke 250 XL at the dunes and one of the beginners wrecked it while I was out playing with the real bikes. The filter element jarred loose and it started to suck sand. By the time I got back from my ride, hours later, I noticed that the camp bike POS trainer... was blowing lots of smoke and so I hopped on it, way down on power. The bike was worthless in my opinion so I let them continue to ride it and by the time we left later that day, it was seized up. Sand kills motors fast! When I got home, i pulled the side cover and saw that the element had jarred loose and the intake was littered with sand.
same reason as everyone else i suppose. more air, less filter, a no-brainer. my rail gets rebuilt at least once a year for one reason or another. seized it a glamis last thanksgiving after burning an oil hose due to a loose exhaust nut. nope, no low oil safety or even a light. pressure gauge is hard to see at night. oh, by less filter i was refering to size. anyway the motor is on the bench after it's fresh rebuild and it goes back in the car tomorrow.

there is a recall on some k&n dodge kits some of you might like to know about.
http://www.knfilters.com/FIPK/tuberecall.htm

Last edited by duner; Jun 25, 2007 at 12:17 AM. Reason: additional info
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 12:23 AM
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ok then....Clayten buddy, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. That post broke on of my rules anyway......wansnt going to say anything bad about K&N anymore
Ah Doc now ya got me feeling bad. And the only way I know how to snap out of it is if a top is taken off and thrown away. I think you need a vacation after breaking your rules, an Island vacation in the Pacific ocean.
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